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GOP Sounds Alarm Over Obama Decision to Move Census to White House

 
 
Woiyo9
 
Reply Mon 9 Feb, 2009 02:58 pm
Utah's congressional delegation is calling President Obama's decision to move the U.S. census into the White House a purely partisan move and potentially dangerous to congressional redistricting around the country.

Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, told FOX News on Monday that he finds it hard to believe the Obama administration felt the need to place re-evaluation of the inner workings of the census so high on his to-do list, just three weeks into his presidency.

"This is nothing more than a political land grab," Chaffetz said.

Rep. Rob Bishop, R-Utah, told the Salt Lake Tribune that the move "shouldn't happen." He and Chaffetz are trying to rally Republicans "before its too late."

"It takes something that is supposedly apolitical like the census, and gives it to a guy who is infamously political," Bishop said of Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, who would be tasked with overseeing the census at the White House.

The U.S. census -- a counting of the U.S. population -- is conducted every 10 years by the Commerce Department. Its results determine the decennial redrawing of congressional districts

As a matter of impact, the census has tremendous political significance. Political parties are always eager to have a hand in redrawing districts so that they can maximize their own party's clout while minimizing the opposition, often through gerrymandering.

The census also determines the composition of the Electoral College, which chooses the president. If one party were to control the census, it could arguably try to perpetuate its hold on political power.

The results of the census are also enormously important in another way -- the allocation of federal funds. Theoretically, a political party could disproportionately steer federal funding to areas dominated by its own members through a skewing of census numbers.

At this point the White House doesn't seem willing to say what Emanuel's role will be in overseeing the census, and White House officials say census managers will work closely with top-level White House staffers, but will technically remain part of the Commerce Department.

But critics say the White House chief of staff can't be expected to handle the census in a neutral manner. Emanuel ran the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee in the 2006 election, and he was instrumental in getting Democrats elected into the majority.

"The last thing the census needs is for any hard-bitten partisan (either a Karl Rove or a Rahm Emanuel) to manipulate these critical numbers. Many federal funding formulas depend on them, as well as the whole fabric of federal and state representation. Partisans have a natural impulse to tilt the playing field in their favor, and this has to be resisted," Larry Sabato, the director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia, told FOX News in an e-mail.

Critics note that the method of counting can skew the census. Democrats have long advocated using mathematical estimates, a practice known as "sampling," to count urban residents and immigrants. Republicans say the Constitution requires a physical head count, which entails going door-to-door.

The decision to move the census into the White House was announced just days after Obama named New Hampshire Sen. Judd Gregg, a Republican, to be his commerce secretary. Gregg has long opposed "sampling" by the census and has voted against funding increases for the bureau.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/02/09/gop-sounds-alarm-obama-decision-census-white-house/

This seems a bit odd!
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Mon 9 Feb, 2009 03:04 pm
@Woiyo9,
Do you have a link from a reliable news source on this?
mysteryman
 
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Reply Mon 9 Feb, 2009 04:53 pm
@ebrown p,
Who do you consider "reliable"?
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 9 Feb, 2009 09:00 pm
@mysteryman,
Bill O'Reilly, and only Bill O'Reilly, Fox News.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Mon 9 Feb, 2009 09:43 pm
@mysteryman,
There are plenty of reliable news sources; for example NPR, CBS, ABC, The New York Times, CNN (this is not a complete list).

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 9 Feb, 2009 10:55 pm
the census has been political for a long time, it all has to do with how much effort and how successful the counters are at finding those who are not easy to count (homeless, illegals, non English speaking). Generally Dems want them counted, the GOP does not. Given that the census is supposed to count everyone the GOP does not have a leg to stand on.
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Woiyo9
 
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Reply Tue 10 Feb, 2009 07:15 am
@ebrown p,
Happy now asshole? I am SURE this site will meet you criteria.

MANCHESTER - Sen. Judd Gregg yesterday declined all comment on reports that the White House will strip him of his authority over the federal Census Bureau even before he becomes Secretary of Commerce.

Gregg spokesman Laena Fallon said all comment would come from the White House.

A White House spokesman last evening said, "From the first days of the transition the census has been a priority for the president, and a process he wanted to reevaluate. There is historic precedent for the director of the census, who works for the Commerce Secretary and the president, to work closely with White House senior management -- given the number of decisions that will have to be put before the president. We plan to return to that model in this administration."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29046718/
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squinney
 
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Reply Tue 10 Feb, 2009 08:57 am
Further down in the article one finds one of the reasons for making this move:

Quote:

"Gregg was nominated for the Commerce post on Tuesday by President Obama, a move described as a show of bipartisanship and an effort to bring contrary opinions to his Cabinet.

But the nomination angered minority groups, who charged that Gregg has been an opponent of the federal census process.

According to several reports, Gregg, as chairman of the Senate appropriations subcommittee that oversees the Commerce Department, opposed a 1999 request by President Bill Clinton for emergency funds for the 2000 census. In 1995, he voted in committee and on the floor for a 1995 GOP budget that would have eliminated the Commerce Department."


I'd say that's a pretty good reason.
engineer
 
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Reply Tue 10 Feb, 2009 09:06 am
@Woiyo9,
Note that the congressmen complaining are from Utah. Utah was on the edge of picking up another congressional seat, but lost out to North Carolina in the 2000 census by a few hundred people and they are still smarting over it. Link

Quote:
Utah’s battle for a 4th seat followed the 2000 Census when Utah missed getting an additional seat
in the House by 857 people.1 This slim margin of loss called the U.S. Census Bureau’s counting
methods into question. The state challenged the Bureau’s practice of excluding overseas
missionaries from the apportionment count. The argument’s validity was based on the fact that
residents living overseas who are stationed abroad in the military are counted toward the
population of a state.2 More than 11,000 Utah missionaries living abroad were not counted in the
Census and North Carolina, the state that won the extra seat, had its 18,360 overseas residents
serving in the military included in the population count.
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Woiyo9
 
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Reply Tue 10 Feb, 2009 09:10 am
@squinney,
Um....then why did Obama appoint him?
Thomas
 
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Reply Tue 10 Feb, 2009 09:32 am
@Woiyo9,
Bipartisanship, I guess.
Squinney, quoting the article, wrote:
Gregg was nominated for the Commerce post on Tuesday by President Obama, a move described as a show of bipartisanship and an effort to bring contrary opinions to his Cabinet.

Perhaps Obama is beginning to notice just how silly bipartisanship and centrism really are. I sure hope he does.
squinney
 
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Reply Tue 10 Feb, 2009 09:38 am
@Thomas,
True, and I hope so.

Then again, since Gregg served as chairman of the Senate appropriations subcommittee that oversees the Commerce Department, and he voted in committee and on the floor for a 1995 GOP budget that would have eliminated the Commerce Department, perhaps Obama is putting a critic in the post on purpose.
Thomas
 
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Reply Tue 10 Feb, 2009 10:05 am
@squinney,
I guess. Better have him on the inside pissing in than on the outside pissing in, or something like that.
squinney
 
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Reply Tue 10 Feb, 2009 10:12 am
@Thomas,
I was thinking more of keeping enemies close.
Thomas
 
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Reply Tue 10 Feb, 2009 10:15 am
@squinney,
Oookay -- trying to envision the gargantuan enemy group hug that implies....
squinney
 
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Reply Tue 10 Feb, 2009 11:44 am
@Thomas,
Very Happy
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Tue 10 Feb, 2009 02:29 pm
From Friday's daily briefing:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/PressBriefingbyPressSecretaryRobertGibbs2/6/2009/

Quote:
Q One last one. Has the White House moved the control of the Census Bureau into the White House for the purposes of the 2010 census, and if so why?

MR. GIBBS: No, the -- I think the historical precedent of this is there's a director of the census that works for the Secretary of Commerce, the President, and also works closely with the White House, to ensure a timely and accurate count. And that's what we have in this instance.

Yes, sir.


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Q How is the White House responding or how do you respond to the concerns of African American and Latino officials about Judd Gregg being in charge of the census given in the past he's not always supported additional funding for the census and they believe that isn't -- doesn't have sufficient concerns over making sure everybody is counted?

MR. GIBBS: I think everybody can be assured that any person that is picked by the President to work for this President implement the views of this President. And President Obama obviously is -- believes that we have to, for a lot of reasons, have a fair and accurate count during the next census. And that's, as President of the United States, exactly what he intends to do.

Q Will the White House involvement with the census office be -- is that partly to ensure that that indeed happens?

MR. GIBBS: No, I think -- I think any -- any cooperation with that is historical in nature.
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