MONTANA TALK TO ME

Now is one of those moments when I wish the "personal message" function were back in operation. I would love to PM Montana right now and tell her to give Fount a chance to talk this thing out...but I can't because the goddam PM thingy ain't here.

So I am doing it this way.

I truly think Fount is being reasonable here, Montana...and I really hear the hurt you are experiencing. Maybe a private talk via email will settle things down in a nice way. None of us have to hear what surely should be a private conversation. Either of you can set up a special email account just for the short talk.

Then let us all know you two have kissed and made up.

MODERATORS: Get rid of that goddam "ignore" ****...and put the PM function back in here. If we want to ignore someone...we can ignore them without a function for it...but if we want to PM somebody...we cannot do it without that function!

'Course I'm just a guest here...and that outburst was probably not very guest-like.

Sorry.

I meant to say that gently and with respect...and with a "please."

Thanks Frank: many have been quick to condemn: few have tried to help: I mean it. I'm trying to break a brick wall: I haven't got the tools. Thanks.

I suspect that theres some kind of story here. Today, several posts seem to be on ignore and I dont have anyone (Save one DB) on ignore.

i find that too, brandons got a thread asking about it

started for me a few days ago with threads, but my preferences should let me see everything

Hey Monty

Please be very careful girl.


FOW said:














Frank.... hey there hun - I know I rarely speak out in the general posts - I'm so sorry but I'm afraid I would have to disagree with your point of view here. Talking to people and proverbially kissing and making up with this extreme game/persona that appears to be going on - just my opinion of course - I would wish to discourage Montana from getting involved any further, especially privately or by email or phone. I find the wording the person is using above quite frightening for someone who has only just met another person virtually/online in a matter of days. Quite incredible actually. Manipulative also when saying:




This person does not have a relationship with Montana - it appears to me that the person is trying to draw Montana using her good and decent nature. Montana has absolutely nothing to feel bad about at all - and if the person is "personally upset with" her... I find that totally manipulative on their part - conniving almost.


However, that of course is just my opinion and, of course, I am a guest here also. I will rarely judge people on what I see in black and white on the internet, I trust (blindly at times) until the trust is broken. In this case - a conversation led to the above being written. I think that's pretty scary.






Montana - you're a big girl - you'll make your own decisions and you know where we are. Tread very carefully and keep your trust with those you know.



Will go back to my comfort zone now I've said my piece.

Issie...I musta skipped right over the erotic overtures. Didn't realize this was part of the play. I thought this really had to do with the story (which I considered a short piece of fiction) that Fount had written about losing her legs in a motorcycle accident.

I thought there was an admission of a "lie"....and that Montana was upset about the ensuing conversation.

This other stuff is way off the mark. If that truly is the reason for Montana's reaction, I apologize. I shoulda stuck my nose out of it, as Casey Stengel mighta said.

Izzie, you said/wrote it all. This is EXACTLY why the Internet can be such a potentially dangerous place. Our good friend, Montana, has dispatched this clown but I think of those unfortunate few who might be far less prepared. The manipulation is/was so obvious to some of us as it happened and then obvious to others, in retrospect. I just don't buy any of it, particularly is the ante was being upped with the admission of undying devotion increased. There was no "Storytelling" transition. It seemed to me to be designed to manipulate and coerce someone weak for the purpose of attracting a real life interaction. The fever pitch to this and the desperation only keeps escalating.

This may seem to be an odd reference, but I'm thinking of the lyrics of the song 'Words' by the BeeGees:
" ...and words are all I have to say to take your heart away!"

"Words"

"Smile an everlasting smile, a smile can bring you
Near to me.
Dont ever let me find you down, cause that would
Bring a tear to me.
This world has lost its glory, lets start a brand
New story now, my love.
Right now, therell be no other time and I can show
You how, my love.

Talk in everlasting words, and dedicate them all to
Me.
And I will give you all my life, Im here if you
Should call to me.
You think that I dont even mean a single word i
Say.
Its only words, and words are all I have, to take
Your heart away."

Okay, I'm freaked out now.

It seems to me that no one has taken the most likely explanation: and that is that I don't want hurt anyone and I wanted to explain this in person.I never intended to alarm or control anyone. There is definitely a lynch mob mentality when quoting Shakespeare is seen as guilt.
Perhaps I do have a poetic quality to my speech which can be misinterpreted. It was not what I intended. What I will say is that this is between me and Montana. I will make no effort to contact her at all. I am going to create a hotmail where she can contact me if she wishes. otherwise She need feel no pressure to ever talk to me again. I would be overjoyed to leave this site.
Read "of Mice and Men" and learn.

you and me both.

Montana I'm on [email protected]. Its a fake site Ive created under the name Eve Adams. I think its all gone crazy. I thought I was weird. I didn't realise how many nasty people there are in this world. I can see who the witch burners are. talk to me or don't. Your choice. No pressure.

maybe fow is just trying to help.

as in Trying To Help.

Sorry Dag.
My eye roll was at fountainofdrama.. not you

Yeesh.

Like Frank, I had missed those quite inappropriate (and disturbing) posts with sexual overtones. Way inappropriate. Way off base.

In the "gender" thread, I had defended FOW when I thought criticism to be inappropriate and off base. Montana pointed out some posts (that I hadn't seen) that seemed to trigger some of the animosity. At that time she was attempting to be fair minded and realistic so I accepted the explanation while still feeling the criticisms on the "gender" thread to be unnecessary and off base. I think she did too. (Maybe that's what triggered this new and scary side for which there is absolutely no justification or defense.)

Then I experienced the kind of stuff people objected to personally. It did change my perspective.

And this cyber stalking we're now seeing cannot be condoned or justified at all. Perhaps it is meant in jest or as humor that falls flat. I don't know. But I do appreciate that we can all agree that it is disgusting.