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Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu advocates carpet bombing Gaza

 
 
Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jan, 2009 06:00 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
You are extremely irrational so long as you persist in claiming that a valid comparison can be made between the Israeli state and the NSDAP state of Germany in the 1930s and -40s.
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Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jan, 2009 09:01 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
The only fallacy of the comparison? The Jewish state hasn't gotten around to committing the acts that their leaders wish to commit.


Even if that were true, that's a pretty big distinction Cyclo. Many people throughout history have had ugly wishes and expression but Nazis remain the penultimate example of evil in most people's minds not because of the wishes some of them may have had but for the realization of their atrocities on the scale that they reached.

It's a cheap and easy argument, but it's a vacuous one that diminishes the horror that Nazis inflicted. Hitler and Nazis are overused superlatives that are not proportionally appropriate to describe Israel and combined with the offense it carries for Jews (for obvious historical reasons) it's the kind of argument that makes it harder to reasonably criticize Israel.
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Foofie
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jan, 2009 09:19 pm
@Robert Gentel,
The Sephardic Jews have a three-thousand year history of not being first class citizens in Arab countries, whether pagan or Moslem (and for all intensive purposes, many are as Semitic as any Arab). They can be more emphatic than Ashkenazi Jews, in my opinion. They might have a longer list of complaints against Arabs?
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Foofie
 
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Reply Mon 12 Jan, 2009 09:33 pm
By the way, carpet bombing was used in North Vietnam. That was acceptable, in my opinion, because American military were dying from the Vietcong and North Vietnamese Regulars.

That has nothing to do with the current situation in Gaza obviously. Notice carpet bombing did not help the U.S. win that war. That could have also been the title to this thread: Carpet bombing would probably not work.

This whole problem is based on the fecundity of the Arabs. If Arabs had two kids, and Jewish Israelis had two kids, then both could live forever in one state. It is that power of the birthrate that makes for an imbalance, so any one state solution would just be an Arab state in 50 years. That might be why the two groups will always stay apart. Jews do not have the goal of populating the Earth. And, I have no idea what Arabs have as a goal? Stay tuned for the next 100 years.
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