Fossil evidence of humans and dinosaurs together

You should really try watching the video. There are no "goobers" involved in any way. There are two possibilities: either you have real, solid evidence of dinosaurs and humans living at the same time, or you have Carl Baugh and Don Patten, both people with serious professional credentials,

Furthermore, it may very well be the case that these bones have been discovered together in times past, but for at least two reasons, were not reported. First, someone who might have found these bones in a quarry, could react by saying, “Hey look guys, it’s a bunch of old bones. But quick, pass me another stick of dynamite so we can get the next ton of coal out of here.” The proof that men and dinosaurs were fossilized together may have gone up in smoke years ago. Second, it may be possible that human bones have been found by scientists alongside dinosaur fossils, yet simply have not been reported widely. By saying this, we do not mean to accuse evolutionary researchers of dishonesty. Rather, we simply believe they are afflicted with presuppositions that have affected their judgment. It is evolutionary geologists and paleontologists who are doing most of the research in this area. If they did happen upon human fossils and dinosaur fossils in the same strata, is it not possible that they would think to themselves, “Oh, these human fossils are an anomaly; they cannot have actually existed in this time period because evolution is true”? If evolutionists can “confuse” a dolphin’s rib for a human collarbone (Anderson, 1983, p. 199), or an extinct pig’s tooth for a human tooth (e.g., Nebraska Man; see Harrub and Thompson, 2003, pp. 88-89), then similar mistakes could easily be made concerning human and dinosaur fossils. If one ever has been found with another, scientists could have misinterpreted the “anomaly.” Because (from an evolutionary perspective) human fossils “shouldn’t be where they are,” they might very well not get reported as being where they are!

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The two hillwilliams that were responsible for "etching" out the dino tracks so that they would look like human footprints is a funny story in itself. The Creation Research Institute had been following this whole story in the late 1980's when , descendents of the original two goobers were discovered carving more toe prints into the river bed. ...

You should really try watching the video. There are no "goobers" involved in any way. There are two possibilities: either you have real, solid evidence of dinosaurs and humans living at the same time, or you have Carl Baugh and Don Patten, both people with serious professional credentials, attempting to promulgate a transparent fraud on the public and destroy their own careers in the process.

NCSE Reports Vol 9, No. 6, Nov-Dec. 1989.



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Texas "man track" enthusiast Carl E. Baugh claims to have "degrees in theology" as well as advanced degrees in science. Baugh's "man track" claims have been evaluated and refuted on the basis of the physical evidence alone[1,2], but an examination of his claimed credentials is warranted as well, since by claiming them, Baugh has linked their validity to his scientific credibility and integrity. The issue not is whether Baugh should have a particular degree, but whether the claimed degrees are legitimate and have been represented accurately.

Although questions have been raised before about Baugh's science degrees[3] even Baugh's claimed theology degrees appear somewhat overstated. The theology degree most frequently claimed by Baugh is a "Doctor of Philosophy in Theology from the California Graduate School of Theology."[4] Baugh described this as an "earned degree" (implying normal course work and graduation); however, attempts to verify the degree from CGST have been unsuccessful,[5] and a former close associate of Baugh's stated that the degree was "not real, but honorary."[6] In any case, the school is not accredited by any national or regional accrediting agency,[7] and evidently has little standing in the academic community (it is not even listed in standard college and graduate school directories).[8]

A December 1986 "vita" by Baugh did not mention the degree from CGST, but did list "1959, Bachelor of Arts, Burton College" and "1983, Master of Arts, Luther Rice in Conjunction with Pacific College of Graduate Studies."[9] I have not been able to verify the existence of Burton College. Luther Rice is an unaccredited seminary in Jacksonville, Florida. A representative from Luther Rice indicated that Baugh graduated in 1984 with an M.A. in "Biblical archaeology...through our Australian extension ...since we don't a degree in that."[10] However, the "Australian extension" appears questionable at best, and is related to Baugh's science degrees as well (explained below).

The specific science degrees claimed by Baugh (or attributed to him) have varied somewhat from account to account[11,12,13,14]. In recent years Baugh has claimed a "Masters Degree in Archaeology from Pacific College" and a "Doctor of Philosophy Degree in Anthropology from College of Advanced Education."[15]

Baugh gave the location of the College of Advanced Education (CAE) as Irving, Texas; however, the Chamber of Commerce, and Department of Taxation, and phone directory in Irving have no record of the school.[16] When pressed by an assistant for the address of CAE, Baugh gave it as "2355 West Pioneer, Irving, TX, 75061" and indicated that its dean was Dr. Don Davis.[17]. The address appears on a small house in Irving, located next to Sherwood Baptist Church, whose pastor is Rev. Don Davis. Davis indicated that CAE is a "missions" school, with no science classes or facilities.[18] The school is not accredited by any national or regional agency, nor certified by the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board (which must be obtained to legally grant degrees in Texas). In fact, none of the educational organizations that I contacted had ever heard of the school.[19]

Rev. Davis explained that Baugh's anthropology degree was granted "through" CAE, "under the auspices of Clifford Wilson in Australia."[20] However, the reason for this curious arrangement was not explained, and the connection to Wilson only further undermines the validity of the degree.

A copy of Baugh's CAE "diploma" (furnished by Baugh) indicates that CAE is the "Graduate

Joel and Dawn Duff wrote:
>
> There was a recent discussion of Donald Patton's claims about the
> destruction of footprints at Paluxy. At the time I had actually been
> researching some of his articles on the Biblical ice age. In searchng the
> web I found a paper of his
> which was a debate on the site of Noah's Ark. At the end of this paper is a
> short biography I presume written by Patton himself
> (http://www.eskimo.com/~dwpatten/DEBATE.html). It reads as follows:
>
> Donald W. Patten was born in Conrad, Montana, and
> has a B.A. degree in geography from the Univ. of
> Washington (l952) and aM.A. degree from the same
> institution (1962). He is the author of The Biblical
> Flood and the Ice Epoch 1966), The Long Day of
> Joshua (1973), and Catastrophism and the Old
> Testament (1988). With Windsor, he is the co-author
> of The Recent Organization of the Solar System (1995)
> and The Last of the Mars-Earth Wars (1997). Projected
> for 1998 is their The Flood of Noah. In addition, Windsor
> and Patten have written over ten published essays on Earth
> history.
>
> I don't see that he has a Ph.D. nor does it even indicate what field his
> M.A. is in. But on his site about the Paluxy and other tracks
> (http://www.bible.ca/tracks.htm) he is listed as:
>
> Geologist, Dr. Don Patton, Ph. D.
>
> Ask the Creation Scientist Ask Geologist, Dr. Don Patton,
> Ph. D. Your science question. He is a
> young earth creation scientist!
>
> Now, I realize he is not directly responsible for all the content on this
> page although I got the impression he wrote some of the descriptions for the
> photographs. I haven't been able to find if Patten has a Ph.D. or not. I
> sent an e-mail to the creation scientist pointing out this seeming
> contradiciton but I haven't heard anything yet. Maybe some one out there
> knows more about Patton's background. Actually I am even confused as to the
> spelling of his name since it is consistently spelled Patten in the Noah
> article even in the biography and web address so either he misspelled his
> own name or someone else wrote this for him!!
>

Gunga, admit it, you have no idea about anything you speak. You cant even support the credentials of your sources so you make up **** that they have "serious credentials" and careers to protect. You are a trip, besides being a fraudulent teller of tales..

FArmerman, based his entire view of geology on a "LArry the CAble Guy Model

When minerals are removed from modern bone, a collagen matrix " fibrous, resilient material that gives the bone its structure and flexibility " is left behind. When Schweitzer demineralized the T. rex bone, she was surprised to find such a matrix, because current theories of fossilization held that no original organic material could survive that long.

Chuck Darwin's main "gifts" to the world were naziism, communism, eugenics, and two world wars.