@gungasnake,
Can't access your link, gunga, But we're taught it's a planet.
We're taught what is within the confines of acceptable teaching, also.
Physics is far beyond mainstream (Non-military) understanding, evolution works, but not for modern man - WAY too many changes, WAY too quickly..
Anyway - Saturn is whatever you label it as.
I watched venus, jupiter and mars line-up with the sun (Pre-dawn) in late sept, from Wales - 45 degrees NE to SW, Made cmaj look like a blip - Looking due East - Trajectory, not actual NE, SW - In case some smarmy fk conflicts.....
Never see that again, from earth, as me:)