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Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2014 10:01 am
@oralloy,

By the way, in other good news, they found the two guys who killed those three teenagers, and they bulldozed the house they were in, with them still in it.

Squashed 'em right down just like Rachel Corrie.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2014 10:13 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
It's a shame about those Bedouin, but it looks like they're in the way.
Well, just some thousand more Israeli martyrs.

I do wonder, though, that you don't complain about the destroying of these Israeli homes ...
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 24 Sep, 2014 02:43 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
As an aside:
Quote:
Psst! The most popular boy’s name in Israel in 5774 was really Mohammed
The list of the year’s most popular names for newborns did not include obviously Arab names, the Population, Immigration and Border Authority confirmed on Sunday.

The authority circulated a list with the 10 most popular names for boys and for girls under the heading, “The most common names among babies born this year” – referring to the Jewish year 5774 – but neglected to mention that the list only included Hebrew names. According to this list, Yosef was the most popular boy’s name, followed by Daniel, Ori, Itai, Omer, Adam, Noam, Ariel, Eitan and David.

However, the name given most often to newborns during 5774 was actually Mohammed. Moreover, the ranking for Yosef – which was in fact the second most commonly given name – also includes Arab babies named Yusef, which in Hebrew is spelled the same way.

It turns out that the population authority only omitted clearly Arab names like Mohammed and Ahmed – which would have been the ninth most common name, had it been included.

According to the authority, the most popular newborn name for girls this past year was Tamar, which pushed Noa into second place after it had spent 14 years at the top. Those two names were followed by Shira, Adele, Talya, Yael, Lian, Miriam, Maya and Avigayil. Here, too, the names Lian, Miriam (Maryam) and Maya are used by both Jews and Arabs.
... ... ...
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God protects USA
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2014 08:38 am


“The American people are determined to eliminate from their midst organizations which, purporting to be ‘religious,’ in the accepted sense of that term, are conspirators dedicated to the destruction of our form of government by force and violence…

“The Congress hereby finds and declares that Islam, although purportedly a religious sect, is in fact an instrumentality of a foreign conspiracy to overthrow the government of the United States. It constitutes an authoritarian dictatorship within a republic, demanding for itself the rights and privileges accorded to individuals of other religious denominations, but denying to all others the freedoms guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution….

Section 2 of the Communist Control Act of 1954
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2014 02:46 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
I do wonder, though, that you don't complain about the destroying of these Israeli homes ...

You need a good topographical sense of the area to understand why it is so important that Israel develop the E-1 Area.

The West Bank can be divided into two zones: the Jordan River Valley to the east, and the highlands to the west.

The Jordan River Valley is an inhospitable desert wasteland. The only significant population center in the entire valley is Jericho. It is also at a much lower altitude than the rest of the West Bank, and reaching it means taking a winding road down the side of a mountain.

The significance of Israel developing the E-1 Area is that it would block all highland links between the northern and southern West Bank for the Palestinians.

So instead of making a quick drive north or south while staying up in the temperate highlands, if a Palestinian wanted to travel between the northern and southern West Bank, they would have to make a much longer journey, traveling down the side of a mountain, driving through the desert, then going back up the side of another mountain.

Because of that, even if the Palestinians were given West Bank territory in one contiguous block, Israeli development of the E-1 Area would still result in the effective separation of the northern and southern Palestinian areas of the West Bank.

Therefore the question of whether Israel develops the E-1 Area is of great importance. Simply by building in this one area, Israel can strike a devastating blow against the Palestinians.
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Sat 27 Sep, 2014 02:52 pm
And don't forget, Israel is America's boss!!
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 3 Oct, 2014 09:07 am
Swden, btw, will become the first major European Union country to recognise the state of Palestine, Prime Minister Stefan Lofven announced today.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Fri 3 Oct, 2014 01:03 pm
@God protects USA,
You wish.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 3 Oct, 2014 02:49 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Swden, btw, will become the first major European Union country to recognise the state of Palestine, Prime Minister Stefan Lofven announced today.

Europe thinks they are going to create a scenario where the Palestinians are given their own state unilaterally while Israel sits by idly doing nothing.

That's not going to happen.

If there is going to be the unilateral creation of a hostile state on Israel's border, Israel is going to take some unilateral steps of their own in order to ensure their safety.

Number one on that list will be to make sure there is a defined and actual border between Israel and the hostile new state.

This means that settlement construction in the E-1 Area will commence (see my above post for the significance of that).

It also means Israel will complete construction of the entire Security Fence along its currently-planned route, including the areas around Jerusalem where they are currently being pressured not to build the Fence.

The Security Fence will become Israel's official border, and all land west of the Security Fence will become Israeli territory.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 3 Oct, 2014 03:09 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
Europe thinks they are going to create a scenario where the Palestinians are given their own state unilaterally while Israel sits by idly doing nothing.
I don't know what Europe thinks, but Sweden certainly is one of Europe's approximately 50 countries.

There are already quite strong diplomatic relations between European countries and Palestine
http://i60.tinypic.com/afk0ba.jpg
(Yellow: missions/permanent missions; red: embassies [source: Wikipedia])

At least nine EU-countries are among those European countries, which have already elevated the status of Palestinian missions to full embassies. ( Cyprus, Denmark, the UK, France, Ireland, Portugal, Spain, Malty and Italy.)
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2014 07:14 am
A typical example of the gutter tactics used by Israel's supporters.

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The Israeli authorities are being urged to shut down the internet account of an activist based in the country who is accused of harassing French reporters.

The activist, a Frenchman called Gregory Chelli, says that the journalists have shown themselves to be pro-Palestinian.

On Tuesday, the father of one reporter died of heart failure after being the victim of a hoax call from Mr Chelli.

Mr Chelli strongly denied any responsibility for the death.

Mr Chelli said in a tweet that the call was made five days before the death of the father of journalist Benoit Le Corre.
Mr Le Corre writes for the internet site Rue89 and recently wrote a critical article about Mr Chelli, alleging that he had hacked into pro-Palestinian websites during the Israeli offensive in Gaza this year.

Mr Chelli - otherwise known as Ulcan - is accused by French journalists of initiating a campaign of harassment in response.

He said he was considering libel action against news organisations that made the allegations.

The BBC's Hugh Schofield in Paris says that Mr Chelli allegedly called Mr Le Corre's father pretending to be from the police and told him his son was dead.

On another occasion he allegedly pretended that he was Mr Le Corre's father and called the police to say that he had just murdered his wife and son.

Armed police came looking for bodies. Three days afterwards, the father had a heart attack and died.

Rue89's editor said if he lived in France Mr Chelli's online activities would have been shut down weeks ago, but he's taking advantage of Israel's refusal - so far - to respond to French judicial pressure.




http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29460035
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 4 Oct, 2014 07:39 am
@izzythepush,
This terrorist organisation has been mentioned here before.
Like all terrorist, they get worse and worse if no-one stops them.

Grégory Chelli had been known as a hacker. And now, he's hiding in Israel, having dual nationality ... to hide from prosecution.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 22 Oct, 2014 07:51 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Religious Jewish violence from Wiki.
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The Hebrew Bible contains instances of religiously mandated wars[76] which often contain explicit instructions from God to the Israelites to exterminate other tribes, as in Deut 7:1–2 orDeut 20:16-18. Examples include the story of Amalekites (Deut 25:17–19, 1 Sam 15:1-6),[77] the story of the Midianites (Numbers 31:1–18),[78] and the battle of Jericho (Joshua 6:1–27).[79]
These wars of extermination have been characterized as "genocide" by several authorities,[80] because the Torah states that the Israelites annihilated entire ethnic groups or tribes: the Israelites killed all Amalekites, including men, women, and children (1 Samuel 15:1–20 ); the Israelites killed all men, women, and children in the battle of Jericho(Joshua 6:15–21), and the Israelites killed all men, women and children of several Canaanite tribes ( Joshua 10:28–42).[81] However, some scholars believe that these accounts in the Torah are exaggerated or metaphorical.
Zionist leaders sometimes used religious references as justification for the violent treatment of Arabs in Palestine.[82] Palestinians have been several times associated with a Biblical antagonists, Amalekites. For example, rabbi Israel Hess has recommended to kill Palestinians, basing on biblical verses such as 1 Samuel 15.[83] Shulamit Aloni, a member of the Israeli Knesset indicated in 2003 that Jewish children in Israel were being taught in religious schools that Palestinians were Amalek, and therefore an act of total genocide was a religious obligation.[84]
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 22 Oct, 2014 09:48 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
Like all terrorist, they get worse and worse if no-one stops them.


Like the USA, Walter?
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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 22 Oct, 2014 09:53 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Still after the pikers, I see, CI.

You realize who these "monsters" daddy is, don't you?
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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 22 Oct, 2014 09:57 pm
@God protects USA,
Quote:
It constitutes an authoritarian dictatorship within a republic, demanding for itself the rights and privileges accorded to individuals of other religious denominations, but denying to all others the freedoms guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution….


You're describing the long and terribly sordid history of the USA.
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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 22 Oct, 2014 09:59 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
These German-made submarines can carry cruise missiles with a range of thousands of kilometres, and can be equipped with nuclear warheads.


Oh great, Walter, the "monsters" have two daddies with deep pockets!
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 26 Oct, 2014 01:25 pm
Israeli President Reuven Rivlin has attended a memorial ceremony for the victims of an Arab massacre by his country's forces, calling the act as a "despicable crime." He's the first Israeli president to attend the event.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 26 Oct, 2014 03:00 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Following intense pressure from settlers, Defence Minister Moshe Ya'alon has issued a directive that bans Palestinian workers from travelling on Israeli-run public transportation in the West Bank.
IBTimes, report @ Haaretz
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 26 Oct, 2014 05:17 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
How nice to live in a democracy! The only democracy in the Middle East.
 

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