Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

Well that little bit spits in the face of every migration theory of the Americas I've ever read.

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Argumentum ad hominem is a logical fallacy in which one personally attacks one's interlocutor rather than addressing their argument.

I have consistently addressed what pass for arguments on your part.

"Ad hominem," on the other hand, is a bit of internet babble in which one actually turns the tables, and whines about being insulted rather than actually addressing the argument advanced against them.

And you have been wrong again and again.

You've cobbled together this "i only meant the west bank" since then to try to claim that you weren't wrong about your facts.

As far as i can see, you are either woefully ignorant, or willfully disingenuous.

You are also wrong about the success of the IDF in the recent invasion of the Lebanon. Their mission was not to kill as many non-combatant Lebanese as possible. Given that that's the only accomplishment to which you can point, you're wrong that the invasion was any kind of success, even by the self-serving and paltry standards of the Israeli government.

You are consistently wrong,

and if pushed into a corner on it, all you have to say is "no i'm not."

Basically, you arbitrarily and capriciously choose to recognize a right of possession for Jews, but for no one else,

and bury your head in the sand when it comes to any arguments against your position. You might as well put your fingers in your ears and shout "la-la, la-la, i'm not listening" for all the good it does to attempt to debate you.

Just to remind you, not every person who is against the actions of Israel is anti-semitic.
In fact, most of us are not.

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Who exactly were these so-called "Palestinians" during the time period in question?

The Palestinians were the indigenous people who inhabited this land during the time period. The Palestinian people have origins there dating back to Canaanite, Hebrew, and post-Hebrew times. Over the ages they subscribed to various religions including the many pagan religions of the area, Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

Chumly wrote:

For what exact time period are you making said assertions?

The time period, as you will plainly see indicated in the map images, covers the years between 1946 and 2000.

I write to record Israel's rape of Palestine, and its cheating and dissembling. And to highlight the extreme prejudice , bad faith and evil of its apologists.

You people "took umbrage" at the Shoah. And rightly so.

Now your're doing your own version of it.

If they are lies, why are most reliable media sources so consistent in their reporting of the Israeli atrocities? Are they all liars?

I've found that almost every single criticism of Israel that I've ever heard has actually just been poorly disguised anti-Semitism.

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The charges against Israel are lies. It is as simple as that.

Except they aren't.

oralloy wrote:

I've found that almost every single criticism of Israel that I've ever heard has actually just been poorly disguised anti-Semitism.

Well, that's just because you obviously read just biased sources and don't know more than one language .... though there are a lot of Israelian sources in English as well ...

While in Israel some years ago, the Israeli's had check points on most of the roads - especially the road that ran close to Jordan. Yes, they were armed.

Why is it that people like Advocate uses their great imagination about the US-Canada invasion when that issue doesn't even come close to what Israel does in Palestine - for real.

Similarly, now matter how terrible the Jews were treated (amongst others), it does not green light them to treat others with the same cruelty.

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Foofie wrote:

failures art wrote:

...Similarly, now matter how terrible the Jews were treated (amongst others), it does not green light them to treat others with the same cruelty.

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I do not compare the invasion of Gaza (based on the retaliation for 8,000 missiles from Palestineans) with the "Jew hunt" in all Nazi occupied countries, that was gladly assisted by many from each occupied country.

If Palestineans can claim that one-third of their population was killed (forget the six million figure for a moment) then I can see some equality. The Jews lost their civilization in Europe. The Palestineans lost people, due to their using population centers as camouflage. Their culture continues right where it is.

If the pro-Palestinean position, of non-Middle Eastern people, shows anything, it is that the attitude during WWII, that Jews were expendable, has not really changed in the minds of many people. Since Israel understands this, I am not optimistic about peace there. Only Germany, that has its own cross to bear from WWII, can understand Israel's position. But, in my opinion, many other people of European descent just cannot get over the intractable attitude that Jews are not supposed to function like other people.

See what two-thousand years of brainwashing can do.

So, Foofie, it's about numbers now?

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True that I only read English. However there are plenty of unbiased English news sources.

And why don't you read those?
I mean here especially, those from Israel itself. But you might call those anti-Semitic, too, .... (That's an interesting concept of yours, btw: makes any discussion virtually impossible.)

Israelis aren't "expendable" but their losses are not any more important than Palestine's.

Your blaming of Palastine for the casualties inflicted by the IDF is cowardly.

oralloy wrote:

True that I only read English. However there are plenty of unbiased English news sources.

And why don't you read those?
I mean here especially, those from Israel itself.

But you might call those anti-Semitic, too, .... (That's an interesting concept of yours, btw: makes any discussion virtually impossible.)

orally, You fail in history:

more Pals have been killed by Israelis. Yes, innocent Pals including women and children.

You're a jerk

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who can't see the suffering of others,

but expect sympathy for the Holocaust.