Can you look at this map and say Israel does not systemically appropriate land?

@Advocate,

Advocate wrote:

Who said they were teenagers?

I did.

The anti-Semites are trying to pretend that a group of goofy kids was a Mossad team carrying out the orders of the Israeli government.

I was just pointing out that they were just a bunch of goofy kids.

Did those goofy kids tell people on the street that "now we know what Israel feels like" (or whatever the phrase was)? Probably they did say it.

What with the way the anti-Semites are always so vocal in their hate, it seems that some Israelis get the mistaken idea that the anti-Semites actually speak for America.

If someone is under that mistaken impression, I don't blame them. Rather I blame the bigmouth anti-Semites who pretend that they speak for America.

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@Advocate,

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@Advocate,

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Who said they were teenagers? Are you setting up straw men?

You must forgive my oversight, Advocate, I forget that sometimes YOU are who YOU are! That quote about the "teenagers" who were just teanagers laughing at the men/women jumping from the Twin Towers trying to save their lives, were written by an unhealthy mind, Oralloy. It was pasted by Ci from Orally's post inside his response message. I responded to Ci's message to Oralloy but neglected to say "Oralloy wrote: indicating the quote was from the latter." Oralloy is the same chap who said "all newborn Italian babies should be ground into food for dogs to eat" on another board many moons ago, and RECENTLY on this board that "Meredith Kercher's death was the best thing to happen." Now that is one poster with a macabre mind!

These illegal Israelis were not teenagers but fully grown men filming the burning imploding Twin Towers and were pumped up with Adrenalin, yelling and joyfully, high-fiving each other. The tenants, more than one called, and I don't know if they were men or women or a combination of both were so frightened by the men's excessive happiness at the tragedy occuring across the river that they called the police.

Advocate, even teenagers will stand transfixed before the unusual happening that occurred on 9/11. They will NOT CHEER but with normal minds be dumbfounded, horrified at what they see. No NORMAL teenager would ever conceive of laughing at dying men jumping from the towers desperately trying to hold on to life!

[/quote]What happened to Baker has happened to USA officials all over the world. Nixon was spit on in Peru by many people. And the Pals killed one of our ambassadors. Wow, what bad manners![/quote]

YOU miss the point as usual, Advocate. The US is Israel's main benefactor and without the US vetoing all the UN resolutions in the UN against Israel, that tiny little country would cease to be. This was Israel where some Israelis threw eggs and shouted coarse language at Baker's convoy of vehicles. The US taxpayer has given over 117 Billion dollars to that ungrateful nation, and you would think they would show at least a modicum of respect to the visiting Secretary of State.

Ciao

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@cicerone imposter,

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MiM, Good article. Thanks for sharing. Unfortunately for the American public, our government is blind, dumb, and stupid......all rolled into one!

Ah, Ci, this is where you and I slightly diverge. I do agree it's our government who has upside down priorities; the American people, on the whole, stand for fair play and justice for the Palestinian people.

The American people are not blind, dumb and stupid, but tend to not follow foreign policy as closely as some of us do. In the US where the gap between the rich and poor is widening and the middle class is fading, the ample time to follow foreign affairs might seem like a luxury to some. Academics follow closely what's happening worldwide, as do many retires and others with a natural intellectual bent for the world around them. Many Americans cannot tell you who their state's US senators or representatives are. Approximately 50% of Americans don't bother to vote, especially during off-year elections when the Tea Party venom gets their people in office.

Money, power and greed could be the calling card of the legislative body that make power in the US.

AIPAC - The American Israel Public Affairs Committee, is the power behind the US congress; they are trying to get the US government to add additional sanctions on Iran and do not want Obama to try diplomacy first. But Obama has said he will veto any bill applying more sanctions to Iran at this time.

AIPAC contributes tons of money to each congressman, Dem and Repuke, so the US congress will ALWAYS BE PRO-Israel, regardless if the tiny nation is wrong. PURE GREED is what motivates the average US congressman who would throw their mother under the bus for the Zionist nation.

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@cicerone imposter,

Lately, you have been telling me that I am a stupid Jew (adding "LOL") Is this a religious insult? Please don't be cute in your reply.

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@Advocate,

It applies only to you. You're a stupid and ignorant Jew. Probably the worst.

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I could be wrong, but I think Israel's leaders for many years have been grumpy hardline old men, so maybe younger politicians should take over.
Incidentally about 5 years ago I was watching a TV docu, and the interviewer said to a young Israeli soldier out on patrol "How can the Palestinian problem be solved?" and the soldier replied "By giving their country back to them".
Another young Israeli soldier said much the same thing later but his commanding officer heard him and ushered him away from the camera..

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

It applies only to you. You're a stupid and ignorant Jew. Probably the worst.

Jews are a "people." That would also apply to Japanese, regardless of their citizenship. Being an American would then not disqualify you from receiving epithets from people, based on your heritage, using your own logic.

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@Foofie,

That's not even close to being logical! Most people that immigrated to the US from other countries use hyphenated descriptions. I'm Japanese-American or Asian-American. That's how the US census makes its count. I have never supported what the Japanese of Japan has done in their history - especially their bastardly actions against East Asians in Mongolia, Korea, China, and other countries before and during WWII.

Japan is now the US's closest allies, and so is Germany. There is much to be proud of their economic accomplishments since WWII.

You are also an ignoramus and an idiot; a Jewish one. There are also Japanese who are ignorant, stupid, and idiotic; I just don't happen to know any now.

I'm third generation Japanese-American. I know no other country as my homeland.

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@Foofie,

That's not even close to being logical! Most people that immigrated to the US from other countries use hyphenated descriptions. I'm Japanese-American or Asian-American. That's how the US census makes its count. I have never supported what the Japanese of Japan has done in their history - especially their bastardly actions against East Asians in Mongolia, China, and other countries before and during WWII.

Japan is now the US's closest allies, and so is Germany. There is much to be proud of their economic accomplishments since WWII.

You are also an ignoramus and an idiot; a Jewish one. There are also Japanese who are ignorant, stupid, and idiotic; I just don't happen to know any now.

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Romeo Fabulini wrote:

I could be wrong, but I think Israel's leaders for many years have been grumpy hardline old men, so maybe younger politicians should take over.
Incidentally about 5 years ago I was watching a TV docu, and the interviewer said to a young Israeli soldier out on patrol "How can the Palestinian problem be solved?" and the soldier replied "By giving their country back to them".
Another young Israeli soldier said much the same thing later but his commanding officer heard him and ushered him away from the camera..

This stuff is worthless anecdotal tidbits. Israel has freedom of speech and one can always find someone willing to make a stupid comment. It happens in the USA all the time.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

That's not even close to being logical! Most people that immigrated to the US from other countries use hyphenated descriptions. I'm Japanese-American or Asian-American. That's how the US census makes its count. I have never supported what the Japanese of Japan has done in their history - especially their bastardly actions against East Asians in Mongolia, Korea, China, and other countries before and during WWII.

Japan is now the US's closest allies, and so is Germany. There is much to be proud of their economic accomplishments since WWII.

You are also an ignoramus and an idiot; a Jewish one. There are also Japanese who are ignorant, stupid, and idiotic; I just don't happen to know any now.

I'm third generation Japanese-American. I know no other country as my homeland.

The problem here is that you are a senile old man, to whom no one should pay attention. Your race or ancestry is of no matter.

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@Advocate,

Is that all you can say? That I'm a senile old man? I admit to it! That doesn't take away anything from my opinion about you - and some others on this thread. LOL

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

I'm third generation Japanese-American. I know no other country as my homeland.

A common mistake. One starts counting with the first generation born in the U.S. So, if I remember you saying your grandparents came to the U.S. in 1896, or thereabouts, you are "second generation American born." That is also used in New England for the term "Yankee." The third generation born in the U.S. is a Yankee.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Japan is now the US's closest allies, and so is Germany. There is much to be proud of their economic accomplishments since WWII.

No. Britain is the closest ally. In my opinion, that being likely because Anglo-Saxons wield the most power in the U.S., even though they aren't the largest white ethnic group.

Japan and Germany are allies; however, many Americans still sleep with one eye open, in my opinion. Not that they can revert to being enemies, but they are just out for themselves, as most countries are, in my opinion.

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@Advocate,

Advocate wrote:

Romeo Fabulini wrote:

I could be wrong, but I think Israel's leaders for many years have been grumpy hardline old men, so maybe younger politicians should take over.
Incidentally about 5 years ago I was watching a TV docu, and the interviewer said to a young Israeli soldier out on patrol "How can the Palestinian problem be solved?" and the soldier replied "By giving their country back to them".
Another young Israeli soldier said much the same thing later but his commanding officer heard him and ushered him away from the camera..

This stuff is worthless anecdotal tidbits. Israel has freedom of speech and one can always find someone willing to make a stupid comment. It happens in the USA all the time.

What might be telling about the intellectual level of many of the posters is that some posters demonize all Jewish Israelis as the cause of the Palestinean's problems, and other posters point out the remarks from Jewish Israelis that reflect a non-Zionist view. When will Gentiles get their thinking straight?

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@Advocate,

Advocate wrote:

cicerone imposter wrote:

That's not even close to being logical! Most people that immigrated to the US from other countries use hyphenated descriptions. I'm Japanese-American or Asian-American. That's how the US census makes its count. I have never supported what the Japanese of Japan has done in their history - especially their bastardly actions against East Asians in Mongolia, Korea, China, and other countries before and during WWII.

Japan is now the US's closest allies, and so is Germany. There is much to be proud of their economic accomplishments since WWII.

You are also an ignoramus and an idiot; a Jewish one. There are also Japanese who are ignorant, stupid, and idiotic; I just don't happen to know any now.

I'm third generation Japanese-American. I know no other country as my homeland.

The problem here is that you are a senile old man, to whom no one should pay attention. Your race or ancestry is of no matter.

It appears from the poster above that my Jewishness is germane to my being an "ignoramus and an idiot," yet his Japanese identity makes him just another hyphenated American? Can I too be just another hyphenated American (Ashkenazi-American)? Am I supposed to believe that all Japanese-Americans have no concern for the Fatherland? If that was true, there would have been no internment camps in WWII, in my opinion.

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@Foofie,

Foofie wrote:

A common mistake. One starts counting with the first generation born in the U.S.

That certainly might be your opinion. The United States Census Bureau has a different one.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Foofie wrote:
A common mistake. One starts counting with the first generation born in the U.S.
That certainly might be your opinion. The United States Census Bureau has a different one.

Perhaps, it evolved, due to the desire to make people feel more American. However, the criteria for being a New England Yankee, or Yankee implying an American of a few generations, reflects the third generation born in the U.S. is a Yankee.

And, the problem may be based on some people talking clipped. Decades ago, people would specifically say that one was the second, third, or fourth generation born in the U.S.; today they just say they are one more generation than that which was born in the U.S., by counting the immigrant generation. One was not here for that higher number of generations, since the immigrant generation really was assimilating, rather than being the type of American if one was born in the U.S.

My family came here in the 1880's and 1890's. I just say I am second generation American. I do not count my grandparents.

Think of the newer Asian immigrants for example. If a child was born here shortly after parents arrived from Asia, then does it really make sense for a child of six to say he/she is second generation American, even if the parents became citizens? Or, what if the child is born here, and the parents are undocumented immigrants. Is it correct to say the child is a second generation American?

And, by counting the immigrants as the first American generation, one is eliminating the term of "immigrant generation." That always existed, when one was talking about who originally came to the U.S. And, that was not counted when saying how many generations were (born) in the U.S.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Japan is now the US's closest allies, and so is Germany.

Not really if they are believing left wing ideologies of Zionism as Western imperialism.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/01/sowing_hatred_for_israel_and_jews_among_japans_intelligentsia.html

While you distance yourself from the Imperial Japanese, how do you feel about the left of center present day Japanese?

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