@Setanta,
CNN said that McCain will never get to the 270 electoral votes - even if a miracle should happen and he'd win all midwestern states. California, Oregon, Washington and Hawaii will never turn Republican.
Obama will win!!
@Setanta,
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Has anyone seen a conservative around here this evening?
Only OmsigDavid, and he just wants to talk about guns.
Maybe i should start a thread . . . call on them to show themselves . . .
Obama now leading in VA with 82% of precints reporting, also leads in NC, and FL.
This could be 350 electoral votes or more.
Only down by 4,000 votes in Indiana. That one may go to him too.
@parados,
On second thought, at 4,000 votes in a couple of states, they won't have a victor until all absentee votes show up.
@parados,
Has anyone else noticed the maps they show broken down to the county level? The polarization between the rural and urban areas scares the hell out of me, just as it has the past two elections.
@sozobe,
Workin' again, thanks Robert and co.
@sozobe,
Florida's verra interesting.
Remember, the four Pacific states -- California, Oregon, Washington, and Hawaii -- represent 77 votes, and Obama is leading all of those states by sizable margins. The networks have Obama at 207 right now, which means that he gets a minimum of 284.
I saw that Obama is expected to appear in Grant Park at around 11:00 local time. If the networks call those four Pacific states when their polls close at 11:00 ET/8:00 PT, McCain might give his concession speech shortly thereafter. That will dictate when Obama gives his victory speech.
@Cycloptichorn,
So Obama only needs to take California and Washington to win now..hmmm...can he do it?
@joefromchicago,
Oh man, I have to stay up 'til midnight? I'm not missing that speech tho
@nimh,
Yay, works again.
OK, I still had this on NC, maybe interesting for Engineer c.s.:
nimh wrote:
Since the Join Us Here Tuesday Night thread is temporarily broken, I'll post this here instead, about the mixed results from NC:
Some good results from small-town North Carolina:
- Catawba county (69,000 voters) - went for Bush by 35%, now for McCain by 25%. Swing of 10%.
- Alamance county (64,000 voters) - went for Bush by 23%, now for McCain by 9%. Swing of 14%.
- Lee County (24,000 voters) - went for Bush by 21%, now for McCain by just 8%. Swing of 13%
- Davie county (20,000 voters) - went for Bush by 49%, now for McCain by 39%. Swing of 10%
- Chowan county (7,000 voters) - went for Bush by 10%, now for McCain by 1%. Swing of 9%
But that's the better ones, and Obama needs a state-wide swing of 13%.
E.g., on the downside there's these rural results:
- Ashe county (13,000 voters) - went for Bush by 24%, to McCain by 23%. Thats a 1% swing.
- Cherokee county (13,000 voters) - went for Bush by 35%, now to McCain by 39%. Thats a swing TO McCain.
- Alleghany county (5,000 voters) - went for Bush by 20%, to McCain by 21%. Thats a swing TO McCain.
- Camden county (5,000 voters) - went for Bush by 30%, now to McCain by 32%. Another swing TO McCain.
nimh wrote:
But here's a good one from North Carolina:
Cabarrus county (that's around towns called Concord and Kannapolis) - 77,000 voters (up from 50,000 last time) - went for Bush by 34%, now for McCain 18%. Swing of 16%.
@joefromchicago,
CT-4: Chris Shays is gone -- the last Republican congressman in New England.
@ehBeth,
VA: Obama up by only a couple of thousand. Some big results still to come in from northern VA. The "Wilder Factor" refers to Doug Wilder, who was elected our 1st black Gov. He was up in the polls by mid-double digits but won only by a small margin. Folks may have lied to the pollsters about their willingness to vote for a black person. We shall see.
