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things that are American...

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 31 Oct, 2008 10:56 am
@Cliff Hanger,
Quote:

I wear a lapel pin. Do you?

I used to wear a lapel pin; sometimes.
American Flag
I was not a fanatic about wearing it.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 31 Oct, 2008 11:12 am
@ehBeth,
Quote:

Correctly made, New England Clam Chowder is not tomato-based.
New England Clam Chowder is basically a cream-based potato soup with clams.

Manhattan Clam Chowder (abomination that it is),
is tomato-based.

SO STIPULATED, Beth.





David
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Cliff Hanger
 
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Reply Fri 31 Oct, 2008 11:24 am
@ehBeth,
I'm talking about going to a restaurant, in New England, and getting it there-- in the broth with the tomatos, it's really good.

The only kind of Manhattan style I am familiar with that is awful is Campbell's which was served to me, in both varieties as a youngster. As a matter of fact, Campbell's does chicken noodle pretty good.

Campbell's-- now that's American.
Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Fri 31 Oct, 2008 11:34 am
@Cliff Hanger,
Anybody tries to put tomatoes in my New England clam chowder had better be carrying a bigger hogleg than I. ( I generally pack a .44 magnum.) If you got tomatoes in your chowdah any where in New England, Cliff, the chef was undoubtedly a New York immigrant and got run out of town right after he served you.
Cliff Hanger
 
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Reply Fri 31 Oct, 2008 11:39 am
@Merry Andrew,
Ya know-- I am wrong about my definition of the one with cream. However, the authentic chowder, in my estimation is the straight broth, no cream, with the tomatos.

All that cream makes it too heavy.

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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 31 Oct, 2008 11:51 am
@Cliff Hanger,
You know squat about New England clam chowder. Your claim about chowder being broth-based is relevant only to Manhattan chowder and southern fish chowders. Your only relationship to New England chowder is that if you puked up your nonsense in New England, you'd be referred to as a chowdah-head. You know very little about Wikipedia if you believe it can so easily be edited, but whether or not that were true, it's simple enough to discredit any claim at Wikipedia by proving it isn't true, or posting a counter-claim from another source which you allege is more reliable.

You don't have a handful of spit to back up your silly claims.

Your use of English in the second paragraph of the post referred to makes me question all the more if you are an American, and in fact to wonder if you are even a native speaker of English. I wear no lapel pins, and wearing one has nothing to do with being an American. I was born in New York, and have lived all my life in the United States, except for wandering around the world somewhat in the three years i spent in the United States Army, having enlisted.

The more you post, the more ridiculous you make yourself look. The best thing you could do with the chowder topic is to drop it, because you are making yourself out to be a great braying jackass by insisting upon what everyone else knows is BS.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 31 Oct, 2008 12:00 pm
@Merry Andrew,
Quote:

Anybody tries to put tomatoes in my New England clam chowder
had better be carrying a bigger hogleg than I.
( I generally pack a .44 magnum.)
If you got tomatoes in your chowdah any where in New England,
Cliff, the chef was undoubtedly a New York immigrant and got run
out of town right after he served you.

That makes sense to me,
altho, I hope that your .44 is loaded with .44 special rounds
(if I may say so) because a full magnum load is overpowered
and will surely result in overpenetration. Hopefully, the slugs
are hollowpointed to put the brakes on them within the target,
but with a full magnum load, that will not work.

I think that overpowered slugs are counterproductive,
tho I agree with your opinions about the soup.





David
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Cliff Hanger
 
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Reply Fri 31 Oct, 2008 12:14 pm
@Setanta,
I can't tell if you're serious or not. I truly cannot. If you are joking around to show off your expository skils then this is fine.

If you are not joking around, then you have succeeded in declaring yourself the king of the heap-- over soup. Allow me to make this clear, we are talking about soup.



hamburger
 
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Reply Fri 31 Oct, 2008 01:02 pm
@Cliff Hanger,
is there an "authentic" new england clam chowder ?
you be the judge !
hbg

http://www.ochef.com/1057.htm

from the link :

Quote:
It is unclear if chowder was an invention of the French, British, or Native Americans, but its development clearly has links to the growth of the fishing trade off the coast of the Canadian Maritime Provinces and New England. Fish chowder received its first bit of publicity in 1751 in Boston, while there was no written reference to clams in chowder until 1833, when Lydia Maria Child mentioned that “a few clams are a pleasant addition” to her fish chowder recipe. (While it makes many New Englanders squirm, Ms. Child also used the same recipe to introduce the concept of adding tomato (in the form of ketchup) to her chowder " instantly igniting the issue that has forever sundered sensible New Englanders and their milk-based New England Clam Chowder from their big-city neighbors to the south with their tomato-mish-mash Manhattan Clam Chowder. Will these senseless feuds never end?)


no ! they won't end - at least not on a2k ! Laughing
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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2008 03:25 am
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

food, David, food

unless you're eating revolvers

I've been trying to get David to take this diet on for sometime now.

T
K
O

I jest. I jest. Mr. Green
farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2008 04:39 am
The evidence regarding chowders strongly suggests that fish and veggie chowders (Think pumpkin) were served up by native americans to the starving settlers of New England.

The Micmac and Passamaquoddy tribes have a substantial tradition of hearty soups made with seawater, mallow flowers, fish , pumpkin, and maize.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2008 06:35 am
@Diest TKO,
Quote:

I jest. I jest.

I bet u recommend I use my .44 magnum revolver for the job.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2008 06:54 am
Eat any weapon you'd like, David. Just remember to pull the trigger.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2008 06:56 am
@farmerman,
mmm squash chowders
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2008 09:02 am
@MontereyJack,
Quote:

Just remember to pull the trigger.

Is ALL your advice that good ?
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2008 09:03 am
@ehBeth,
R we obsessing on chowder ?
Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2008 09:09 am
Given your infantile obsession with firearms, you're hardly in a position to complain about a couple of pages of comment on chowder.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2008 01:10 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:

Given your infantile obsession with firearms,
you're hardly in a position to complain
about a couple of pages of comment on chowder.

No need to be so defensive, Mr. Setanta;
I was not complaining, only observing.
Please continue to discuss chowder as much as u like.
I agree with your position in the matter.

Tho I know that u meant to be offensive and abrasive qua my
"infantile obsession with firearms" u were astutely insightful.

I distinctly remember lengthy mental involvement
in contemplation thereof at and before the age of 3.
My eyes used to lock on to the revolvers and gunbelts
of the police and bank guards. In rhapsodies of reverie
did I envision possessing myself thereof, tho 5 more years
were yet to elapse before my longing n yearning came to fruition.





David
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2008 01:22 pm
Oh man, you live in cloud cuckoo land, no doubt about it. My remark was not defensive, i've nothing to defend. I'm just pointing out that making an allegation of obsession against someone else, in view of your own obsession (so wonderfully illustrated here, complete with improbable story) is rather silly on your part.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 1 Nov, 2008 01:27 pm
@Setanta,
My "allegation of obsession" was toward the entire thread, generally,
not toward u, Mr. Setanta. U do not occupy my thoughts as much as u think u do.





David
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