realjohnboy
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2008 07:43 pm
@DontTreadOnMe,
Probably true, DontTread. The trick now for the Obama folks is to get out the vote, even if there are long lines at the voting places. Complacency is his worst enemy. If people look at the line and decide they need to go home...or back to work...and their vote doesn't matter, that could hurt Obama.
Here in Virginia, a federal court will hear tomorrow a plea to keep the polls open until 10 pm Tuesday.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2008 07:53 pm
@realjohnboy,
realjohnboy wrote:

The trick now for the Obama folks is to get out the vote, even if there are long lines at the voting places.


The treat is that next Wednesday has been set aside for all Obama supporters to vote.
JTT
 
  1  
Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2008 07:53 pm
@H2O MAN,
This,

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushdumbpeople.htm

will forever stand as the epitome of both dumbmasses and dumbasses.

You, of course, have qualified too many times to count, H2oman.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2008 08:34 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Hard to imagine how it might have been done better. I thought it was brilliant in style and in content. We'll see if that wobbly middle wobbles as intended but I'd be very surprised if it doesn't.

A bright move, I thought, was to end it off with a push for volunteers.


Damn straight, my American brother! I couldn't agree more.

"In six days we can choose hope over fear and unity over division."

Plus, he's throwing zingers at him on the trail as well...Obama, talking about McCain today:

“By the end of the week, he'll be accusing me of being a secret communist because I shared my toys in kindergarten.”

I love it.

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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2008 08:41 pm
He looked into the wrong camera?

What a maroon.
LionTamerX
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2008 08:45 pm
@Ticomaya,
Quote:
He looked into the wrong camera?

What a maroon.


Actually, he looks even better in profile. I'm sure it was on purpose. Wink
JTT
 
  1  
Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2008 08:46 pm
@Ticomaya,
Ummmmmmm,

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushdumbpeople.htm

Who did you vote for, twice?
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Green Witch
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2008 08:47 pm
@LionTamerX,
I didn't get the impression it was a mistake either. I thought it was edited to make him look like he was speaking to an unseen audience.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2008 08:49 pm
@Ticomaya,
Clever response, Tico, that in order to be appreciated, must send folks to their dictionaries. Unless you meant moron.
LionTamerX
 
  1  
Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2008 09:02 pm
@realjohnboy,
psst...

It's an old Bugs Bunny reference. Y'know, ears and such,
realjohnboy
 
  1  
Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2008 09:07 pm
@LionTamerX,
Tico is too much a philosopher, or cartoon addict, for me to appreciate.
LionTamerX
 
  1  
Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2008 09:12 pm
@realjohnboy,
I believe Tico is equal parts philosopher, and cartoon addict. This is why I like him so much.
Ticomaya
 
  0  
Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2008 09:24 pm
@LionTamerX,
Here's a little context for the reference, RJB ...



Chuck Graham -- of course -- is bound to a wheelchair.

"Stand up, Chuck ... let 'em see ya!"
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2008 09:50 pm
I watched the Obama ad. It reaffirms the reasons why I voted for him.
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blatham
 
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Reply Wed 29 Oct, 2008 09:59 pm
http://www.myamericanprayer.com/video.html

This is special.
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TilleyWink
 
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Reply Thu 30 Oct, 2008 12:34 am
@Cycloptichorn,
I watched and I thought it was good. No mention of McCain and mostly postive. He should get a few votes out of it and maybe pick up some fence sitters.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Thu 30 Oct, 2008 02:00 am
I didnt see it, but here is an AP analysis of it.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FACT_CHECK_OBAMA_AD?SITE=AP

If your an Obama supporter, you wont like what the AP says., but read it anyway.

Quote:
By CALVIN WOODWARD
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was less than upfront in his half-hour commercial Wednesday night about the costs of his programs and the crushing budget pressures he would face in office.


H2O MAN
 
  0  
Reply Thu 30 Oct, 2008 03:42 am
@mysteryman,
Was Joe the plumber and wealth redistribution mentioned?
H2O MAN
 
  0  
Reply Thu 30 Oct, 2008 03:51 am
WASHINGTON -- Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was less than upfront in his half-hour commercial Wednesday night about the costs of his programs and the crushing budget pressures he would face in office.

Obama's assertion that "I've offered spending cuts above and beyond" the expense of his promises is accepted only by his partisans. His vow to save money by "eliminating programs that don't work" masks his failure throughout the campaign to specify what those programs are -- beyond the withdrawal of troops from Iraq.

A sampling of what voters heard in the ad, and what he didn't tell them:

THE SPIN: "That's why my health care plan includes improving information technology, requires coverage for preventive care and pre-existing conditions and lowers health care costs for the typical family by $2,500 a year."

THE FACTS: His plan does not lower premiums by $2,500, or any set amount. Obama hopes that by spending $50 billion over five years on electronic medical records and by improving access to proven disease management programs, among other steps, consumers will end up saving money. He uses an optimistic analysis to suggest cost reductions in national health care spending could amount to the equivalent of $2,500 for a family of four. Many economists are skeptical those savings can be achieved, but even if they are, it's not a certainty that every dollar would be passed on to consumers in the form of lower premiums.

THE SPIN: "I also believe every American has a right to affordable health care."

THE FACTS:
That belief should not be confused with a guarantee of health coverage for all. He makes no such promise. Obama hinted as much in the ad when he said about the problem of the uninsured: "I want to start doing something about it." He would mandate coverage for children but not adults. His program is aimed at making insurance more affordable by offering the choice of government-subsidized coverage similar to that in a plan for federal employees and other steps, including requiring larger employers to share costs of insuring workers.

THE SPIN:
"I've offered spending cuts above and beyond their cost."

THE FACTS:
Independent analysts say both Obama and Republican John McCain would deepen the deficit. The nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates Obama's policy proposals would add a net $428 billion to the deficit over four years -- and that analysis accepts the savings he claims from spending cuts. The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, whose other findings have been quoted approvingly by the Obama campaign, says: "Both John McCain and Barack Obama have proposed tax plans that would substantially increase the national debt over the next 10 years." The analysis goes on to say: "Neither candidate's plan would significantly increase economic growth unless offset by spending cuts or tax increases that the campaigns have not specified."

THE SPIN: "Here's what I'll do. Cut taxes for every working family making less than $200,000 a year. Give businesses a tax credit for every new employee that they hire right here in the U.S. over the next two years and eliminate tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. Help homeowners who are making a good faith effort to pay their mortgages, by freezing foreclosures for 90 days. And just like after 9-11, we'll provide low-cost loans to help small businesses pay their workers and keep their doors open. "

THE FACTS:
His proposals -- the tax cuts, the low-cost loans, the $15 billion a year he promises for alternative energy, and more -- cost money, and the country could be facing a record $1 trillion deficit next year. Indeed, Obama recently acknowledged -- although not in his commercial -- that: "The next president will have to scale back his agenda and some of his proposals."
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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Thu 30 Oct, 2008 08:07 am
A good advertisement. Well timed. A good affirmation too.

T
K
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