What income is "middle class"?

One could assume you lived in southern CA, gustav. Here, almost everyone
considers himself wealthy, even though every dime is borrowed.

Honestly, I wish I still worked for L-mart. That was a great place to work with lots of cool stuff to work on and look at. I got to see the Hubble before it was launched - here on A2K one time I joked that I installed the original (flawed) primary mirror. Some folks actually believed it LOL!

I worked on lots of cool stuff. R/B's, satellites, even the most complex of the shuttle tiles that neither Boing or Rockwell wanted to deal with.

Wrong. I am currently living in the Hamptons.

When did you work at Walmart, cjhsa? I guess I never knew that.

Hahaha, I needed that laugh

Wow, this is going to be a really long shot, but did you ever know Col Tom Akers? He is the astronaut that put the good mirror on. He was also one of my teachers in college.

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L-mart is my nickname for the merged Lockheed Martin company. Martin cheapened the Lockheed brandname significantly, thus the nickname.

No. The name is familiar but I don't know him.

Damn. Well, that would have been cool. "L-Mart" I'll have to remember that one. lol.

Doing better than Boeing right now though.

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...well, I guess we need to resume arguing about some bitter partisan ****... so... you're like dumb... and stuff.

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You suck...

and now I know why I know the name Tom Akers. Thanks for the brain rattle.

I've spent the last day and a half thinking about everyone's excellent responses to this thread.

And then it hit me.....

fbaezer's "working class" comment. That's it!

You can make $150,000 a year in a blue collar job and $150,000 a year in a white collar job but it isn't the money, it's the work that makes the difference. And it's how you make your money that colors the perception of people around you.

My family falls squarely in the blue collar arena. We work.

We live in a neighborhood that falls almost entirely in the white collar arena. People here hire other people to do all their work for them, except for their actual jobs, of course.

We have met a bit of snobbery and snubbery.

And a little envy.

Envy especially when it comes to Mo, who is the hardest working 7 year old you can imagine. Today he shoveled two yards of gravel off a truck into a wheelbarrow. By himself. (While Mr. B and I stacked firewood.)

People always want to know my "secret" for getting him to do such things.

My secret is that we work. All of us. Work, physical labor, is a fact of our life even though we could hire someone to do it for us. That's the difference.

So.

I guess if your collar is blue, like you're a plumber or a carpenter or some other kind of tradesperson, you are middle class, even if you make $150,000 a year.

Is that it?

kinda depends on who your "joneses" are, but yeah, I think that is a big part of it...

(hey to Mo)

No one has brought up the whole who your family is thing. Or how you were raised. Or your education as definer.....ok maybe the Rockerfeller comment.

My parents raised us to think we were hot stuff based on our lineage but we don't make much $. Anyone else out there? Also because of our lofty ideals etc etc command of grammar blah blah

Pleased to meet u, Plantress.

I hope that u will make MORE $$: Good Luck !





David

i laughed out loud at 250000 being middle class.

thats rich. like it or not.

id say 50000 a year is middle class. after 100000 a year thats pretty rich in my book.

Damn straight, OG.

i made 18 k one year.

hahahaha

How does getting rid of a Porsche
make anyone feel rich ?

How does that work ?
Do Porsches make people feel less than rich ?