@Intrepid,
Intrepid wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
Merry Andrew wrote:
May I give you a piece of advice, Intrepid?
When dealing with seriously mentally disturbed and unstable personalities, do not expect logic and do not attempt to use logic while engaged in conversation. It's like trying to attach a mound of Jell-o to the wall with a staple-gun. Not worth the effort.
People who are unable to distinguish between right and wrong, between sensible actions and aberrant ones, are not sane. It's that simple. Every court in the land recognizes this fact. You're just wasting your breath with the likes of David or cjhsa. Give it up.
So, in your little fucked up world, the overzealous paramilitary cop that busted down the wrong door and shot the defenseless family to death is in the right, because, well, he's a LEO, and thus, he cannot be insane?
MA, and all gun haters - please go away. Get the **** out of the USA or at least stop complaining about the fact we are allowed to own guns. Are you afraid? Do you have an agenda? Just, go the **** away. You are the insane ones who are willing to give up any chance of defending yourself and depending on a police force that really prefers to mess with you, not protect you.
....and these are the kind of people that, apparently,
want the right to own and shoot guns of any type.
The insanity seems to be on the side of at least one gun nut
and we should all be afraid when someone like this is in possession of any kind of gun.
Richard, it is not that we " want the right . . . " as u put it;
its that when we created government, we
BUILT the damned thing
around that right, so that (among other things) we coud
overthrow
government,
again, as we had just finished doing.
The people who protected and safeguarded that Natural Right,
were Revolutionaries. Thay spoke of and wrote about future
political revolutions, which thay wanted the
citizens to WIN.
This concept was in furtherance of the same principle
that we might employ if we were owners of real estate
and we decided to hire an employee: a property manager,
to look after the place on a day-to-day basis.
In case he falls into delusions that he OWNS the place,
or becomes otherwise unsatisfactory,
we need to be able to
RID ourselves of him,
and this was VERY MUCH on the minds of the Founders when thay founded.
We know that from their writings at the time.
We HAVE the right now; we had the Natural Right before government existed.
( see USSC in US v. CRUIKSHANK 92 US 542 [1875] )
Government merely was bound by the Instrument that created it,
not to rape us out of that right, pretending that it did not exist.
Its not a question of "
wanting" it, like we want a bountiful harvest next year.
David