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Todd Palin's Past Political Associations A Likely Security Clearance Disqualifier

 
 
Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 10:54 am
Todd Palin's Past Political Associations A Likely Security Clearance Disqualifier
by Frank Naif - Huffington Post
Posted October 15, 2008

Although Sarah Palin smack talks Barack Obama for "palling around with terrorists," it turns out that the Palin family has its own history of palling around with Alaska's own unique brand of America-haters. Palin's husband Todd was once an actual member of the secessionist Alaskan Independence Party (AIP). Palin herself was not a member of AIP -- but many AIP luminaries claim her as a kindred spirit and "one of their own."

A charitable characterization of AIP might be "quirky down-home Alaska politics." However, the security processes that govern access to our defense and national security institutions might not look so kindly on Todd Palin's past political associations. Indeed, if Todd Palin were applying for a job in the US government or at a contractor that required access to sensitive classified information -- a security clearance -- he would very likely be ineligible.

What's so bad about the AIP? The party officially renounces violence and disloyalty to the United States, even though its members often do not. The AIP has long been aligned closely with paramilitary militia groups -- the kind that fear black helicopters and a United Nations takeover of the US. Indeed, under the leadership of AIP's tough-talking founder, Joe Vogler, AIP allied itself with the Islamic dictatorship in Iran in 1993 so that Vogler could appear at the United Nations to appeal for Alaska's freedom from US "tyranny." A fellow AIP member murdered Vogler before he could take the UN stage. The current AIP chairwoman, Lynnette Clark, believes that Vogler's killer was framed and all but blames the Federal government for Vogler's "execution."

Security clearances are a defining fact of life for the national security drones who quietly toil away in secret vaults and mean foreign streets to help protect America. Entry-level defense and intelligence employees often wait months -- even years -- for the results of an exhaustive background investigation and maybe even a polygraph interrogation before they are allowed to start work with a government agency or contractor. Seasoned intelligence and defense workers routinely re-submit to the security investigation process every few years, or if their work requires them to gain access to a specialized or "compartmented" program.

The criteria for security clearances have changed with the times, but some bedrock principles always apply. When I was in the Army in the '80s for example, tattoos were actually a disqualifying factor for a clearance, as was any past drug use. Fashion and social changes forced a change to those kinds of exclusions. In the early '90s, homosexuality was still a disqualifier -- but that was overturned with Clinton-era adjustments to the clearance process. The rise of computer culture has brought new concern over illegal computer activity, which has found its way into security investigations.

However, security investigators will always be interested in particularly serious issues -- criminal activity, for example, or major financial problems like a history of debt collections and bankruptcy. And of course, loyalty to the US and foreign connections are a major focus of personal security investigations. "Is the subject a foreign spy?" the investigators ask. "Would the subject ever participate in activities intended to harm the United States?"

The security clearance investigation is based on the Standard Form 86, a 21-plus page government form that gathers information on an individual's family, friends, education, employment, residences, finances, law enforcement history, drug and computer use, foreign contacts, and associations with violent or subversive political groups. I have filled out the SF 86 dozens of times. When I was the security officer for an intelligence contractor, I routinely reviewed our employees' SF 86 forms before asking the government to process them for security clearances, looking for obvious disqualifications. The idea here was to avoid the costs of investigating employees who were obviously not eligible for a clearance, like the guy who "experimented" with marijuana at least 100 times in the previous year.

Above all, honesty is the rule for anyone filling out an SF 86 -- do you think CIA or DoD will want to hire or retain someone who lied on a security form?

Which gets us back to Todd Palin. From the security officer's perspective, Todd Palin the hypothetical applicant should be truthful and disclose his former association with AIP on the SF 86 in Section 29, Association Record. And because AIP has been associated with the Revolutionary Government of Iran, he probably should also disclose his AIP membership on Section 20, Foreign Activities.

How would government security officials who administer the security clearance process view the facts of Todd Palin's association with AIP? The answer is not clear cut, but his involvement in a secessionist party with foreign and violent connections would inject serious doubts about his security suitability. At best, the AIP association would raise questions that might be resolved favorably with further investigative work. However, many security officials would likely view the AIP association negatively -- especially the Iranian connection -- and deny Todd Palin a clearance.

Managers of the most sensitive special security programs are allowed wide latitude in denying clearances. These programs, called Special Access Programs, or SAPs, are scattered across government and are focused on specific tasks, such as weapons development or special operations or presidential transportation. A SAP program can exclude individuals based on connections to a foreign country, such as immigrant parents (often excluding vitally needed foreign language speakers), or very stringent financial criteria, such as $10,000 in unsecured debt (often excluding many recent college graduates). Many SAP managers would very likely deny Palin a clearance based on association with or membership in a secessionist party with known ties to a hostile foreign government.

So the Palin family is associated with a political party hostile to America in word and deed. That's a matter of record that has real impact on established norms in the national security community. According to the laws and processes that help protect national security, actually joining a fringe, gun-toting, anti-government party indicates a potential risk of disloyalty, or worse.

Meanwhile, acquaintance with an aging ex-hippy who once belonged to a terrorist group famous for accidentally blowing itself up -- I'm not sure if that's relevant to presidential qualifications. Or national security.
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Woiyo9
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 10:59 am
You better worry about your candidate!!

Could Barack Obama Get a Security Clearance?

Questions Raised in Light of New Reports Examining Senator’s Contacts and Associations with Communists,
Socialists, and Terrorists

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WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Two veterans of investigations into Communist influence on the U.S. political process are holding a briefing on Capitol Hill on Thursday to release two new explosive reports that allege that Barack Obama had ties with extreme anti-American elements, including agents of the Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA. The reports will shed important new light on Barack Obama's mysterious past and rise to power.

"Communism in Chicago and the Obama Connection" a 36-page report by Cliff Kincaid, and "Communism in Hawaii and the Obama Connection" a 44-page report by by Herbert Romerstein, and will be released at a Briefing on Thursday, May 22, at 2 p.m. on Capitol Hill at 201 F St., NE, Washington, D.C. The reports feature historical, congressional and archival material about the existence of communist networks targeting U.S. national security.

The major points in the reports allege:

* Obama has been in the middle of two international communist networks " one in Hawaii and one in Chicago.
* The Hawaii network included communists Frank Marshall Davis, who was Obama’s personal mentor; actor/singer Paul Robeson; and labor leader Harry Bridges. The network was judged a security threat to the United States and the subject of a congressional hearing on the “Scope of Soviet Activity in the United States.”
* Obama covered up the true identity of Frank Marshall Davis in his book, Dreams From My Father.
* The Hawaii communist network was organized directly by and from Moscow.
* The Chicago network included identified communists and socialists, was committed to a communist victory in the Vietnam War, and took instructions from the communist Castro regime in Cuba.
* In addition to communist terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, who were members of the communist terrorist Weather Underground, the Chicago network includes many veterans of the communist Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) who now proclaim themselves “Progressives for Obama.”
* Bill Ayers, who helped launch Obama’s political career, has traveled to Venezuela on several occasions and is an enthusiastic backer of the brand of communism being practiced and promoted by Hugo Chavez.
* It appears that Obama actually worked for Ayers in a Chicago educational reform program that dispensed millions of dollars of grants.
* One of the leaders of “Progressives for Obama” is former SDS leader Tom Hayden, who wrote a letter to a communist Vietnamese official during the Vietnam War hoping for a “victory” over the U.S.
* The SDS openly promoted communism, the regimes in Hanoi and Havana, and condemned alleged U.S. “imperialism.”
* The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), a group that included a convicted espionage agent for communist East Germany, backed and promoted Obama’s political career.
* Illinois State Senator Alice Palmer, who picked Obama as her successor, has a record of involvement in communist front activities.
* Obama campaign strategist David Axelrod, as well as Obama himself, have not explained why Ayers, Dohrn, then-State Senator Alice Palmer, and Dr. Quentin Young came together at the Ayers/Dohrn home to launch Obama’s political career.
* Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley, a client of Axelrod, issued a controversial and misleading statement defending Obama’s relationship with communist terrorist Bill Ayers.

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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 11:08 am
@Woiyo9,
Even conservative Republican Matt Drudge would not publish the phony work of these wing nuts. The comments below are published on the author's site.---BBB

Matt Drudge of the Drudge Report would not accept these two ads for placement on his website, saying through a spokesman they were "too controversial." All they did was draw readers to America's Survival reports on communist networks in Hawaii and Chicago that influenced Barack Obama. The face in the ad is that of Frank Marshall Davis, identified member of the Communist Party USA and mentor for a young Obama in Hawaii. Read the well-documented reports for yourself and decide if they are "too controversial." Why is Drudge, said by some to be the world's most powerful journalist, suppressing information about the reports?
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 11:16 am
@BumbleBeeBoogie,
So now, thanks to Clinton and "social changes", we have gay, tattooed, drug using scumbags toiling away in Secret/Top Secret/So Secret I have to kill you now jobs, but Todd Palin is "likely ineligible".

I love playing this game.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 09:09 pm
@cjhsa,
Hey ceej, How old are you? Really. Gay, tattooed, drug using scumbags have been around long before Clinton came on the scene.
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 09:20 pm
@BumbleBeeBoogie,
Quote:
Above all, honesty is the rule for anyone filling out an SF 86 -- do you think CIA or DoD will want to hire or retain someone who lied on a security form?


I guess they don't want just everyday liars. They want to teach them how to lie by themselves. They want them to be as good a liar as the president, the vp, and all their minions.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 16 Oct, 2008 06:07 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Hey ceej, How old are you? Really. Gay, tattooed, drug using scumbags have been around long before Clinton came on the scene.


Sure they have, but they didn't have 2+ clearances, dumbass.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 16 Oct, 2008 06:16 am
@cjhsa,
Wow, Cosmic Top Secret (CTS). And then you are using your work computer privately? Shocked
cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 16 Oct, 2008 06:18 am
@Walter Hinteler,
???
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 16 Oct, 2008 06:39 am
@Walter Hinteler,
1=confidential
2=secret
3=top secret
3+=I have to kill you now
cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 16 Oct, 2008 06:46 am
@cjhsa,
What happened to Dick-atar's post?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 16 Oct, 2008 10:15 am
@cjhsa,
ceej wrote:
Quote:
Sure they have, but they didn't have 2+ clearances, dumbass.


Oh! Exactly who has those "2+ clearances?"
cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 16 Oct, 2008 10:20 am
@cicerone imposter,
I used to have one. It was quite hard to get then.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 16 Oct, 2008 10:43 am
@cjhsa,
If you had one, I doubt it.
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parados
 
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Reply Thu 16 Oct, 2008 11:05 am
@cjhsa,
cjhsa wrote:
So now, thanks to Clinton and "social changes", we have gay, tattooed, drug using scumbags toiling away in Secret/Top Secret/So Secret I have to kill you now jobs, but Todd Palin is "likely ineligible".

I love playing this game.


cjhsa wrote:

I used to have one.


So did you lose your clearance when Clinton left office?

Quote:
It was quite hard to get then.
Ah.. the ole double entendre. I'll bet it was hard to get your clearance. Wink
cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 16 Oct, 2008 11:07 am
@parados,
I gave up my clearance halfway through Clinton's presidency, because like so many others, I left the defense industry to go into the private sector. That is what happens when Democraps cut defense spending and a big reason why the stock markets went up. Investors got out of treasuries and into the market. Stopped investing in their country.
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