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Embarracuda: what a desperate empty embarrassment the McCain campaign has become

 
 
Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2008 07:24 am
October 6, 2008 10:07
Embarracuda
Posted by Joe Klein
Time Magazine

I'm of two minds about how to deal with the McCain campaign's further descent into ugliness. Their strategy is simple: you throw crap against a wall and then giggle as the media try to analyze the putresence in a way that conveys a sense of balance: "Well, it is bull-pucky, but the splatter pattern is interesting..." which, of course, only serves to get your perverse message out. I really don't want to be a part of that. But...every so often, we journalists have a duty to remind readers just how dingy the McCain campaign, and its right-wing acolytes in the media (I'm looking at you, Sean Hannity) have become--especially in their efforts to divert public attention from the economic crisis we're facing. And so inept at it: other campaigns have decided that their only shot is going negative, but usually they don't announce it, as several McCain aides have in recent days--there's no way we can win on the economy, so we're going to go sludge-diving.

But since we are dealing with manure here, I'll put the rest of this post below the fold.

It is appropriate that the prime vessel for this assault is Sarah Palin, whose very presence on a national ticket is an insult to your intelligence. She now has "credibility," we are told, because she managed to read talking points off notecards in the debate last week with unwitting enthusiasm.

Over the weekend, she picked up on an article in The New York Times, which essentially says that Barack Obama and the former terrorist Bill Ayers have crossed paths in Chicago, served on a couple of charitable boards together, but aren't particularly close. To Palin--or her scriptwriters--this means that Obama has been "palling around" with terrorists. Now, I wish Ayers had done some serious jail time; he certainly needed to pay some penance for his youthful criminality--even if most people in Chicago, including the mayor, have decided that he has something of value to say about education. But I can also understand how Obama, who was a child when Ayers was cutting his idiot swath, would not quite understand the enormity of the professor's background. (I got to know Alger Hiss twenty years after the fact--he was a printing salesman then, a friend of my father's--and thought of him as a sweet old man, if a good deal more liberal than dad's other friends.)

In any case, this is rather rich coming from Palin, who is married to a man who belonged to a political party--the Alaskan Independence Party--that wanted to secede from the union. (I should add here that the Times may have been overreacting to the McCain campaign's attack on its fairness here: the Ayers story was a nothingburger, but it was placed prominently in the top left hand corner of page one--a position that would seem to indicate that it contained important news, which it didn't.)

Then we have the ever-reliable Bill Kristol, in today's New York Times, advising Palin to bring up the Reverend Jeremiah Wright. Palin, of course, believes that's a darn good idea:

“To tell you the truth, Bill, I don’t know why that association isn’t discussed more, because those were appalling things that that pastor had said about our great country, and to have sat in the pews for 20 years and listened to that " with, I don’t know, a sense of condoning it, I guess, because he didn’t get up and leave " to me, that does say something about character. But, you know, I guess that would be a John McCain call on whether he wants to bring that up.”

So then, I'd guess, it would be appropriate to bring up some of the nuttiness that passes for godliness in Palin's religious life. Leave aside the fact that The Embarracuda allowed herself to participate in a cermony that protected her from witchcraft, how about her presence--she didn't "get up and leave"-- at a sermon by the founder of Jews for Jesus, who argued that the Palestinian terrorist acts against Israel were God's "judgment" on the Jews because they hadn't accepted Jesus.

Speaking of Jews, the ever-execrable Sean Hannity has been having intercourse with a known Jew-hater named Andy Martin, who now wants to expose Barack Obama as a Muslim. According to the Washington Times:

In 1986, when Mr. Martin ran as a Democrat for Connecticut's 3rd Congressional District seat under the name "Anthony R. Martin-Trigona," his campaign committee filed papers saying its purpose was to "exterminate Jew power in America and impeach U.S. District Court of Appeals judges in New York City."

Calling all Podhoretzs! Where's the outrage? I mean, don't the hateful doings at Palin's church and Hannity's perfidy deserve a lengthy exegesis from Pete Wehner or Jennifer Rubin or one of the other empretzled ideologues over at Commentary?

As I said, I'm of two minds about this. I don't want to give currency to this sewage, so it will remain below the fold. And I'll try to devote the lion's share of my time to the issues--the war, the economic crisis, the fraying health insurance system, the environment--that should define this campaign. But what a desperate empty embarrassment the McCain campaign has become.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2008 07:45 am
I guess if you write a column for Time magazine and are facing a deadline and you t really don't have anything to say, you just foam a bit at the mouth, pretend to be outraged, and turn it in to your editor.
cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2008 07:52 am
@BumbleBeeBoogie,
Joe would cream his jeans over a PCH.
SYNRON
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2008 12:56 pm
@cjhsa,
cjhsa- I wonder if anyone would contact Joe Klein to urge him to get the details on the Barney Frank/Herb story about Barney Frank's failure to recuse himself and to declare a conflict of interest when he was trying to slow down a push for more OVERSIGHT on Fannie Mae when Barney was a member of the Banking committee in the late 90's.

Maybe Herb and he had a little pillow talk!

I wonder if Barney is the pitcher or the catcher!
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SYNRON
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2008 12:57 pm
@BumbleBeeBoogie,
Are you kidding? Barack Obama, one of the most brilliant men in Chicago who was President of the Law Review at Harvard
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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2008 01:14 pm
@Ticomaya,
When you're Ticomaya, you ignore the truth and run off on idiotic tangents.

In direct contradiction to what John McCain and Cindy McCain both said, that they would run a campaign where the issues were debated, McCain campaign operatives have stated that they intend to run a typically trashy Republican campaign.
Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2008 01:27 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
When you're Ticomaya, you ignore the truth and run off on idiotic tangents.

When you're JTT, you masturbate whenever Ticomaya posts at A2K.

Back on ignore for you, JTTroll.
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SYNRON
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2008 01:32 pm
@BumbleBeeBoogie,
Barack Obama is not and should not be naive. He is intelligent and anyone who says that the former President of the Harvard Law Review who majored in Political science at Columbia never heard of Ayres, the famous weatherman bomber is just a lunatic.

Ayres was on record( I am sure Obama knew this before he went to Ayres's living room for his political inrtoduction to Ayres's LIBERAL group.) as declaiming---"Kill all rich people, Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at"

Bill Ayres co-founded the Chicago Annenberg Challenge with a 50 Million dollar grant program for the Chicago Public Schools. AYRES selected Obama to be the first chairman of the board of the Challenge, a POSITION THAT OBAMA HELD FOR EIGHT YEARS, until 2003, a period during which Ayres remained ACTIVE with the Challenge.

Obama never knew of his benefactor's backround. Obama is not that stupid or misinformed. Or is he? Or is he just appearing to be?

Ayres was involved with the weathermen for eleven years. In 1980, he was arrested but the charges were dropped because the FBI used illegal wire taps to investigate them,

Obama didn't know about this????? stupid?Uniformed? or lying?

In "Chicago Magazine" August 2001, there is a photo of the violently anti-American Bill Ayres STANDING IN AN ALLEY WITH THE AMERICAN FLAG CRUMPLED ONTHE FLOOR AT HIS FEET. But, Obama, who must either be a slow reader, or never informed by anyone.

Now, Barack Hussein Obama may have been eight years old when Bill Ayres was planting bombs at the State Capital but the Senator was a grown man WORKING IN THE EMPLOY OF MR. AYRES(Everyone knows that Obama was a member of the Woods Fund Board while Ayres was ITS CHAIRMAN.

It is difficult to understand why Obama had anything to do with such an obvious America HATER.

Could it be that Obama was inured to such America hating since his own PASTOR declaimed _GOD DAMN AMERICA?

Obama knews Ayres very well, unless you want to say that you don't know a person very well even if YOU SIT ON THE SAME BOARD( WOODS FUND BOARD) with him for THREE years.

I would love to see Joe Klein explain that!!!
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SYNRON
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2008 01:47 pm
I do agree with you JTT. You may be astonished but I do agree with the section in which you say that Ann Coulter called Edwards a "faggot". I don't think there is any evidence that he is a "faggot". She should have reserved her scorn for "Barney". Barney Frank and his lover Herb, an executive from Fannie Mae are and have been an item for some time. That is expecially troubling since Barney was on the Banking Committee when there was a push for more OVERSIGHT on Fannie Mae and Barney talked it down. Barney should really have recused himself to avoid conflict of interest BUT it appears that Barney loved both Herb and his place on the banking committee so he shut his trap for once.

I would really like to know if BArney is the pitcher or the catcher?
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2008 01:59 pm
@SYNRON,
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She should have reserved her scorn for "Barney". Barney Frank and his lover Herb, an executive from Fannie Mae are and have been an item for some time.


Are you suggesting that Coulter, or anyone, should reserve scorn for people simply because they are homosexual? I didn't think so. That would be an exceedingly ignorant position to take and that just not you, is it?
SYNRON
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2008 02:04 pm
@JTT,
No, JTT, her scorn should not be reserved for Barney because he is homosexual. You did not read my post. Her scorn should be reserved for Barney--NOW READ CAREFULLY-because he allowed a "love affair" to influence his vote on the Banking Committee when some wished to tighten up on Fannie Mae and his paramour, Herb, was an executive at Fannie Mae so Barney SPOKE AGAINST THE TIGHTENING UP. That, in any country in the world is a conflict of interest and Barney should have recused himself.

Barney apparently loved Herb and his position on the banking committee in equal measures. He couldnot give up either even if it meant recusing himself for just one vote.
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2008 02:12 pm
@SYNRON,
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That, in any country in the world is a conflict of interest and Barney should have recused himself.


I've read many of your posts. You have to try to make your points clearer. If you want to rewrite it and resubmit it I'll consider a change from the D+ I gave you.

Regarding Barney, there should be an investigation to see if there was any impropriety. Now, the fair minded person that you are, I'm sure you'll agree that there are numerous examples that we can check out on, but not limited to, GWB, Cheney, Powell, Wolfowitz, Bolton, ...
SYNRON
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2008 02:24 pm
@JTT,
Of course, I agree. I will make it simpler--

l. Barney Frank is openly homosexual. No problem there.

2. He is on the banking committee. He is now the chairman since 2006 but was on the DOMESTIC AND INTERNATIONAL MONETARY POLICY AS A MEMBER OF THE MINORITY AS EARLY AS 1998.

3. It has been reported that efforts by some members to TIGHTEN the restrictions against Fannie Mae was opposed by Frank at that time(1998-1999)

4. Barney Frank's lover, Herb, is on record by saying that he and Barney have been lovers for many years. (BEFORE 1998-1999)

Is that clear enough for you, JTT?
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2008 02:30 pm
@SYNRON,
Well, actually no, Enron. I think this requires a bit more than cobbled together hearsay. I find your train of thought, not to mention your logic, falls a wee bit short of any standard.

But this thread is about what a complete smozzle, what a complete farce the Mccain campaign is. So let's get back to that.
SYNRON
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2008 02:34 pm
@JTT,
Well then try the report from Fox News. The media which is in Obama's lap is sitting on this story but they can't do it forever. It will come out soon and then you can read it yourself.

The BOTTOM line is that Barney Frank should have recused himself from the vote to tighten up restricitons on Fannie Mae since he had a CONFLICT OF INTEREST. His lover was a top executive at Fannie Mae and Frank argued AGAINST tightening up restrictions. THAT WAS A CONFLIC T OF INTEREST.

When the story appears in some of the media you will have access to it and then you can make up your own mind.

PS ,this is NO HEARSAY. Barney's homsexuality, Herb's Homsexuality, Herb's executive position in Fannie Mae, Herb and Barney's long time relationship and Barney's efforts to tone down the restrictions pressed by the committee in 1998 and 1999 ARE PART OF THE RECORD.

You will read it in some of the media!
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2008 02:39 pm
@SYNRON,
Quote:
The BOTTOM line is that Barney Frank should have recused himself from the vote to tighten up restricitons on Fannie Mae since he had a CONFLICT OF INTEREST. His lover was a top executive at Fannie Mae and Frank argued AGAINST tightening up restrictions. THAT WAS A CONFLIC T OF INTEREST.


How do you feel about Cheney and Haliburton.? Please start a new thread if you want to continue.
SYNRON
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2008 12:09 am
@JTT,
You mean that Cheney should not have put his stocks from Halliburton in a blind trust after he left the company. To the best of my recollection JTT, there was a court case which dealt with whether the results of Cheney's meetings with Energy CEO's should have been opened for all to see. I do recall that the court ruled that Cheney did not have to open those files.

I don't think it serves any real purpose JTT to go back in time to point out peccadillos of past Presidents and Vice Presidents. If we do, we can become mired in the Clinton-Lewinsky mess. Let's concentrate on the present. I do agree that data and statistics from the past can be examined meaningfully but finger pointing at years old events is unproductive.
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