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Bush distances himself from Cheney on Iraq-9/11 link

 
 
Reply Wed 17 Sep, 2003 04:32 pm
17 Sep 2003 20:09:21 GMT
W.House distances from Cheney on Iraq-9/11 link
By Steve Holland

WASHINGTON, Sept 17 (Reuters) - The White House appeared to distance itself on Wednesday from comments by Vice President Dick Cheney that left the impression he saw a possible link between Saddam Hussein and the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

"We've said all along that there's no evidence to suggest that that we've seen," said White House spokesman Scott McClellan.

Cheney, interviewed on Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press," had left open the possibility of a Saddam link to the attacks.

Democrats have accused the administration of creating a "false impression" at the heart of a widespread U.S. public belief that Saddam had a personal role in the attacks.

A recent poll by the Washington Post said 69 percent of Americans believed there was a Saddam link to the Sept. 11 attacks although no evidence of such a link has surfaced.

Cheney said on Sunday "It's not surprising" the public would believe Saddam was involved in the attacks, blamed on the al Qaeda network of Osama bin Laden, who has repeatedly praised the attacks.

"We don't know," Cheney said. "We've learned a couple of things. We learned more and more that there was a relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda that stretched back through most of the decade of the '90s."

Despite the apparent White House disavowal on Wednesday, President George W. Bush frequently suggested in speeches in the run-up to war that there was a link between Iraq and the al Qaeda network.

In recent speeches he has called Iraq the "central front" in the war on terrorism despite the failure to find conclusive evidence that Saddam was developing weapons of mass destruction.

Bush predicted Saddam will eventually be captured or killed but said the definition of victory in Iraq would be when the country was free and peaceful, according to newspaper reports.

Bush talked about Iraq in an interview on Tuesday with a number of newspapers from states important to his re-election campaign, such as Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Iowa, Washington and Oregon.

The Seattle Post-Intelligencer reported that Bush said his policies for rebuilding Iraq and dismantling militant organizations were working but the message had not filtered down to the public.

In response to a question about the importance of capturing Saddam, Bush said "the definition for victory is for there to be a free and peaceful Iraq."

"And yes, we'd like to capture or kill him as well. And we will at some point in time," Bush said.

His comments came as a new audio tape surfaced in which the purported voice of Saddam demanded the United States unconditionally withdraw from Iraq or face "catastrophic" losses.

At the White House on Wednesday, Bush held a National Security Council meeting with his top foreign policy and military advisers about what aides called "progress on Iraq."

The United States is searching for a compromise with France and other permanent members of the U.N. Security Council on a new U.N. resolution that would create a multinational force for Iraq and set up a pathway to Iraqi sovereignty.

Bush is to address the U.N. General Assembly on Tuesday but U.S. officials said this was not seen at the White House as a deadline for a new U.N. resolution.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Wed 17 Sep, 2003 04:35 pm
White House's Cynical Iraq Ploy
This article can be found on the web at
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20030929&s=scheer1016
White House's Cynical Iraq Ploy
by Robert Scheer
[posted online on September 16, 2003]

It's hard to believe that it was just a slip of the tongue rather than a calculated lie when Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz sullied the memory of those who died on 9/11 by exploiting their deaths for propaganda purposes. The brainwashing of Americans, two-thirds of whom believe that Saddam Hussein was behind the attacks, is too effective a political ploy for the Bush regime to suddenly let the truth get in the way.

"We know [Iraq] had a great deal to do with terrorism in general and with Al Qaeda in particular and we know a great many of [Osama] bin Laden's key lieutenants are now trying to organize in cooperation with old loyalists from the Saddam regime," Wolfowitz told ABC on this year's 9/11 anniversary.

We know nothing of the sort, of course, and the next day Wolfowitz was forced to admit it. He told Associated Press that his remarks referred not to a "great many" of bin Laden's lieutenants but rather to a single Jordanian, Abu Musab Zarqawi. " should have been more precise," Wolfowitz admitted.

Even if the leaders of the Bush team were half as smart as they think they are, it would be amazing that they "misspoke" as often as they have. As happened Sunday when Tim Russert challenged Vice President Dick Cheney to defend his claim, made on Meet the Press before the war, that Iraq possessed nuclear weapons. "Yeah, I did misspeak," Cheney admitted. "We never had any evidence that [Hussein] had acquired a nuclear weapon."

The pattern is clear: Say what you want people to believe for the front page and on TV, then whisper a halfhearted correction or apology that slips under the radar. It is really quite ingenious in its cynical effectiveness, and Wolfowitz's latest performance is a classic example--even his correction needs correcting.

The Zarqawi connection has been a red herring since Colin Powell emphasized it in his prewar presentation to the United Nations Security Council, telling the world how Zarqawi was running a chemical weapons lab. Problem was, the site was not in Iraqi control but was in the US-patrolled no-fly zone, and when reporters visited it in the days immediately after Powell's speech they found nothing that indicated anything like a chemical weapons lab.

The fundamentalist militia known as Ansar al Islam that controlled the area, meanwhile, was supported by Hussein's enemies in Iran. Nor has any evidence of connections between Ansar al Islam and Hussein's regime surfaced since the U.S invasion, as Wolfowitz conceded in congressional testimony last Tuesday.

At that same Senate hearing, Vincent Cannistraro, formerly the CIA's director of counter-terrorism operations and analysis, testified: "There was no substantive itelligence information linking Saddam to international terrorism before the war. Now we've created the conditions that have made Iraq the place to come to attack Americans."

So, Wolfowitz and the Administration might prove to be right after all. Not about Iraq's ties with Bin Laden before the invasion. Nor about the nonexistent weapons of mass destruction the President used to scare up support for war. But by turning its claim that Iraq is the "central front" in the war on terrorism into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Without this claim, the President's men would be revealed as imperial adventurers who wasted the lives and resources of this country to redraw the map of the world. That scheme, including "preemptive military intervention," can be traced to a "Defense Planning Guidance" document prepared by Wolfowitz in 1992 when he was Cheney's undersecretary of Defense for policy.

Thus, it was not too surprising that the bodies recovered after the 9/11 attacks were barely in the ground before Cheney and Wolfowitz were arguing that a proper response to 9/11 was to go after Iraq--whether or not it had anything to do with the plot. They were willing to say anything to convince us they were right, even trying to sell this as a war without cost.

In March, one week into the war, Wolfowitz told Congress, "We're dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction and relatively soon." Now we find that Iraq can't pay for its own reconstruction and since we went to war unilaterally, defying world opinion, we are unlikely to convince anybody else to chip in.

Last week, a Washington Post poll showed that 60% of the American people opposed the President's plan to throw $87 billion more into this quagmire, on top of the $79 billion budgeted already. Perhaps, like people blinking in the sun after a long hibernation, Americans are finally awakening to the stupid and craven things being done in the name of protecting us.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 17 Sep, 2003 04:47 pm
These guys are a lost cause.

Best America wakes up and rids itself of them next November.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Wed 17 Sep, 2003 04:55 pm
This is what happens when you tell so many lies you can't keep 'em straight.
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wolf
 
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Reply Wed 17 Sep, 2003 05:51 pm
I'm very afraid, Frank, that a combination of serial colored preliminary polls + voting scams is gonna give the win to Bush anyway. I never believe a 51% win for Bush would be true... but I surely predict it.

Which would leave democracy with only one option for survival: activism.

Active activism.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Wed 17 Sep, 2003 06:40 pm
Cheney is getting flamed for this as well as for his comments about and relationship with Halliburton.

I think he may be toast.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Wed 17 Sep, 2003 06:53 pm
There's more than a little spin on that first article, "White House distances from Cheney", but those two should be on the same stinking page given there are so many unanswered questions, and the fact that 70% of the public believes there was a link. Of course they'll like the fact of that public poll number, til it comes back and bites their ass. Hopefully it will because they could have put that notion to rest long ago.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 17 Sep, 2003 07:14 pm
Long way to go before election.

This will sort itself out.

I see whoever opposes Bush as our next president.

We'll see.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Wed 17 Sep, 2003 08:12 pm
Yes, I think Cheney will take a fall and be replaced by the other chromosome, maybe Dole, maybe Condi (kicked upstairs for incompetence?).

There's another huge call from True Majority to get rid of Rumsfeld. Don't laugh. These guys have succeeded at quite a lot of "impossibles" -- the latest being the FCC thing. We'll see whether they can influence the House on that..

Here ya go:

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* America's military occupation of Iraq is replaced by a United Nations security force that is given the authority for the transition of the country to a truly representative government.

* The Bush team, led by Secretary Rumsfeld, responsible for the quagmire in Iraq is dismissed.

If you want your Representatives to use the upcoming Iraq vote to end the quagmire there, and you're a TrueMajority member, just REPLY to this email by clicking "reply" and "send" in your email program and we will send your free fax* (text below). Or if this was forwarded to you or you'd like to customize the message, click here:

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By taking this action, you will be joining the majority of Americans who believe that our policy in Iraq is wrong. To maximize our impact in Congress, TrueMajority has joined with the Win Without War Coalition-a mainstream coalition of organizations ranging from the National Council of Churches to the Sierra Club-to flood Washington with e-mails, faxes, and phone calls. The coalition aims for 500,000 Americans taking this action by Friday, September 19 so that we can announce the project. Then with paid advertising and a press campaign, the coalition will organize many more participants for a November 4 day of action when TrueMajority and the entire coalition will deliver our members' messages to Congress.
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