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HOW RELIABLE IS THE M-16 ?

 
 
Reply Sun 24 Aug, 2008 12:55 pm
The reliability and competence of the M-16 has been the subject
of great and impassioned controversy.

Tho it has been improved over time to reduce jams,
how effective have those improvements been ?

How safe are our troops today in active combat, relying on the M-16 in its present condition ?

Shoud our troops have the option of using M-14s ?

or MP5s ?





David
 
Seed
 
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Reply Sun 24 Aug, 2008 01:06 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
I am a gunner right now in Iraq. the M-16 is a crappy weapon. I have to use it for warning shots. if it gets the least bit of sand in it, it jams. I would much rather be using an M-4 up in the turrets
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 24 Aug, 2008 01:26 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
You misunderstood the nature of the controversy....it is the Army spending so much on the crappy m4, a offshoot of the m16, when they had several better weapons available. Because of the m4 the m16 will now be around for a long time as they use the same parts, which is bad because there are also many choices better than the m16 now. But like I said, the primary problem is the army buying the m-4 now.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2007/02/atCarbine070219/
blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Sun 24 Aug, 2008 01:47 pm
I agree with Chris Rock....issue everyone on all sides a musket....
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 24 Aug, 2008 02:15 pm
@blueveinedthrobber,
I bet the Moslems woud like that.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 24 Aug, 2008 02:18 pm
@Seed,
Thank you, Seed.




David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 24 Aug, 2008 02:21 pm
Has anyone tried the H & K MP 5 ?

Very sweet; even on fully automatic
its as if H & K had repealed Newton 's 3rd Law of Motion.




David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 24 Aug, 2008 03:47 pm
@hawkeye10,
That was quite an article, Hawkeye; thank u.
Which better weapons did u have in mind ? The H&K 416 ?
Anything else ?





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 26 Aug, 2008 02:15 pm
@Seed,
Quote:
I am a gunner right now in Iraq. the M-16 is a crappy weapon.
I have to use it for warning shots. if it gets the least bit of sand in it, it jams.
I would much rather be using an M-4 up in the turrets

If I may ask, out of curiosity, did the Army issue u a pistol ?
If so, what do u think of it ?

Are pistols reserved for officers ?





David
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2008 02:29 am
@Seed,
The basic M16 design including all variants appears to be made more for the civilian market than the military. I mean, aside from all else, civilians simply would not be out shooting in a sand storm...

Dumb question: Ever had a look at the Marlin 38A 22 lever-action? A grain of sand would have to really work at getting into that one.

Question is, do you really need the full auto mode for an assault rifle? My own vision of an ideal general army rifle would be something somewhere between the 38A and the new Henry rifle, 26 caliber or thereabouts, rimfire, 65 - 80 gr bullets at something like 2500 fps, detachable mags, and short-throw lever like the Brownings, but with that same covered ejection port like the 38A. Weight would be similar to that of the Henry rifle, i.e. three or four pounds, no need for the weight of the 38A in today's world. You'd clean it in five seconds by pulling a bore snake through the barrel.

Does that idea appeal to you at all?
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