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Homosexuality- a christian perspective on 'love.'

 
 
msolga
 
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Reply Thu 8 Oct, 2009 03:34 am
@Philis,
Repent?



Crikey.

Neutral
Diest TKO
 
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Reply Thu 8 Oct, 2009 05:16 am
@Philis,
Philis wrote:
It depends on who you talk to how deep the condemnation goes.

Philis wrote:
You asked what do christinas think about this. Well, they think homos should repent, lesbians too. Nothing too hard to understand what I wrote.


It "depends" suggests a variety of of opinion, but then in your same post you tell us what "they" think. "They," as in all? If it "depends" as you said, then didn't you mean to write "some?"

If all sin is equivalent, such that being homosexual is no less an offense to a god than raping and killing a blind nun, then what's your sin? I guess you'd be no better than the homosexual, by YOUR logic.

Do you have vengeful, hateful, lustful thoughts? Do you repent? Does repenting mean that you won't have those thoughts again?

If you really believe that the homosexual is no different than the murderer, then it is nothing more than a declaration of your own depravity, as defined by you no less.

T
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Thu 8 Oct, 2009 08:45 am
@Philis,
Philis wrote:
You asked what do christinas think about this.

Perhaps Christina would like to speak for herself.
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gold einstein
 
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Reply Sat 28 Nov, 2009 10:46 am
Lev 18:22 - 'And you must not lie with a male as you lie with a woman. It is something detestable.
1 Co 6:9 - What! Not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men,
Francis
 
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Reply Sat 28 Nov, 2009 11:58 am
@gold einstein,
Let's hope that the pedophile priests do not inherit the kingdom of god either...
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sstainba
 
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Reply Sun 29 Nov, 2009 12:51 pm
@gold einstein,
Leviticus also says that eating shellfish is a sin... As well as wearing clothing made from more than one cloth, planting more than one crop in a singlefield.

My personal favorite (to demonstrate how ridiculous it is): the bible commands a woman on her period to capture two doves or pigeons and take them to a priest who will kill one and set the other free. Only thenis she "clean" of the sin of her discharge.

So really... give the whole bible thing rest.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Mon 7 Apr, 2014 02:10 am
http://i57.tinypic.com/2dvvs40.jpg
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Krumple
 
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Reply Mon 7 Apr, 2014 02:27 am
@The Pentacle Queen,
The Pentacle Queen wrote:

Hello.
I origionaly posted this on the relationship and marriage board, but I'm going to post it here too.
I was wondering if a christian could possibly answer the following for me:

Obviously christianity condemns homosexuality, but what does it actually condemn? The act of sex, or the act of love?
And by love I don't mean friendship, father/son love, comradeship, admiration, warrior bonds between men or anything similar.
I mean the sort of love that is usually found inside a relationship.
Imagine a non-consummated relationship between a boy and girl, perhaps the sort of a couple who are enaged, but between two men.
What does christianity say of this? Why is this sort of love wrong?

pq


To be honest, why would you care what a christian thinks. You are ALWAYS going to find some who say it's okay and some who say it is not. Christians are never consistent. Which is why there are are 14,000 denominations. None of them can agree on anything. They make stuff up as they go along to mold their perfect god according to what they personally want to be wrong or right.

I say it is petty for a god to be concerned about the sexual orientation of anyone. Why would a god care? So I say love who ever you want and don't let some stupid bronze age nonsense dictate how you should live your life.
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Dissily
 
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Reply Fri 2 May, 2014 04:44 am
@Josie Foles,
Please, could we all calm down and do some careful, open minded bible study starting with Bishop Shelbey Spong's 'The Sins of Scripture' moving on, if you survive that, to Douglas Lockhart's 'The Dark Side of God: A Quest for the Lost Heart of Christianity'.
As a meditation we might all ponder the underlying meaning and it's psychological implications of worshiping a semi naked man, nailed to a cross, often with an ecstatic pseudo sexual expression (Michelangelo's Pieta comes to mind) who is actually, according to Rome's distortion, God torturing himself to redeem our sins, sins he gave us the free will to commit.
And as a practical exercise we might all reflect upon Genesis Ch 1: V 26 in the context of the Almighty placing the male G-spot, the prostate gland, just inside the male anus.
joefromchicago
 
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Reply Fri 2 May, 2014 08:43 am
@Dissily,
Dissily wrote:
And as a practical exercise we might all reflect upon Genesis Ch 1: V 26 in the context of the Almighty placing the male G-spot, the prostate gland, just inside the male anus.

Best. Sunday school. Teacher. Ever.
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The Pentacle Queen
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jun, 2014 06:03 pm
@Dissily,
Dissily wrote:

Please, could we all calm down and do some careful, open minded bible study starting with Bishop Shelbey Spong's 'The Sins of Scripture' moving on, if you survive that, to Douglas Lockhart's 'The Dark Side of God: A Quest for the Lost Heart of Christianity'.
As a meditation we might all ponder the underlying meaning and it's psychological implications of worshiping a semi naked man, nailed to a cross, often with an ecstatic pseudo sexual expression (Michelangelo's Pieta comes to mind) who is actually, according to Rome's distortion, God torturing himself to redeem our sins, sins he gave us the free will to commit.
And as a practical exercise we might all reflect upon Genesis Ch 1: V 26 in the context of the Almighty placing the male G-spot, the prostate gland, just inside the male anus.



Hahahaha brilliant.
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worldtraveler24
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jun, 2014 10:43 am
My fellow posters,

A lot has been said here that is correct and a lot that has been said that is not correct consider the original post: It asked what the Christian perspective was on Homosexuality.

First of all No one should condemn anyone--not even Jesus came into the world to condemn the world but that the world should be saved by Him.
Look at John 3;17:
"For God sent not his son into the world to condemn the world but that the world though him might be saved."

God is the judge of us all; however, if you are asking what the position of the Bible is on homosexuality the answer is that it is an abomination unto God (scripture was already quoted). If you read in the book of Revelation 21:27 concerning those who will enter into the New Jerusalem or Heaven as we call it --it states: "And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are in the Lamb's book of life."

An abomination is not only homosexuality but adultery (between heterosexuals), fornication (masturbation, premarital sex, using pornographic material, looking on a man or women with lust in your heart, the list goes on). That is why we must not single homosexuals out to condemn them--ALL SIN IS CONTRARY TO GOD! Every sinner will pay for his/her sin if not repented of and washed by the blood of JESUS.

God destroyed the twin cities Sodom and Gomorrah for their immorality, which included adultery, fornication and homosexuality.

God loves us all and wants us to live according to His word. We cannot expect God to forgive us if we continue living in sin. He told the women caught in adultery in the New Testament " Neither do I condemn you go and sin NO more." The homosexual relationship is contrary to God because God made man and women to produce children. When a heterosexual couple has sex outside of marriage it is a sin. The life is in the fluids that are secreted during the sexual act. God is the giver of life and frivolous sexual acts are a disrespect for the life GOD creates by a sexual union. The whole concept of homosexual behavior is contrary to God's desire for mankind. It becomes an abomination because it brings into question the very reason why God made a distinction between the sexes.

Buttermilk
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jun, 2014 11:31 am
I heard the theory that homosexuality back in Biblical times were rejected due to prevent tribal population depletion, and to replenish those men in the tribe that died early.

The Muslims say in prayer:

"Bismillah ar-rahman ar-raheem

Alhamdu lil-lahi rabbil el-amin
"

"In the name of Allah (God) the merciful , the compassionate. All praise is due to Allah, Lord of the universe."

In all of the holy books the above verse in the Holy Qur'an is the most compelling. With that said, I wonder what creator who designs super planets and stars, black holes, galaxies, quazars, etc care about the sexual orientation of an organism the size of an atom, in comparison to him (God)?
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Buttermilk
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jun, 2014 11:36 am
@worldtraveler24,
Yes so God loves everyone conditionally then...
worldtraveler24
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jun, 2014 12:10 pm
@Buttermilk,
Well Buttermilk, I can understand your frustration; however, keep in mind that you should take up your grievances with GOD. I just simply told you what the Biblical stand is on the issue.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jun, 2014 12:24 pm
@Buttermilk,
Buttermilk wrote:

Yes so God loves everyone conditionally then...


B,

I want to take this opportunity to agree with WorldTraveler.

The Bible does indeed tell us that the god of the Bible finds homosexual activity to be an abomination. The god actually decrees death for the activity.


“If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” Leviticus 20-13

WT is absolutely correct about this.
Buttermilk
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jun, 2014 01:17 pm
@worldtraveler24,
Well if God is omniscent he already understands my frustration without me saying it vocally. I just don't understand your god, who loves me, so long as I'm straight.
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Buttermilk
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jun, 2014 01:18 pm
@Frank Apisa,
So again, the love of god is conditional.
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jun, 2014 01:18 pm
Jesus himself NEVER SAID A SINGLE WORD about gays/ lesbians/ trannies..Smile

Nobody has a beef with nice friendly gays, it's only the nasty loud militant sort they don't like, the sort who surrounded Lot's house in Sodom, hammering on the door demanding he send his two male guests out so they could have them.
Bad call..Wink

Sodom getting it-
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sodom-gomorrah_zps70dc427c.jpg~original



contrex
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jun, 2014 01:28 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:
Nobody has a beef with nice friendly gays, it's only the nasty loud militant sort they don't like

It's the ones who keep sucking my cock that annoy me. I'm not a hateful person or anything—I believe we should all live and let live. But lately, I've been having a real problem with these homosexuals. You see, just about wherever I go these days, one of them approaches me and starts sucking my cock.

Take last Sunday, for instance, when I casually struck up a conversation with this guy in the health-club locker room. Nothing fruity, just a couple of fellas talking about their workout routines while enjoying a nice hot shower. The guy looked like a real man's man, too—big biceps, meaty thighs, thick neck. He didn't seem the least bit gay. At least not until he started sucking my cock, that is.

Where does this queer get the nerve to suck my cock? Did I look gay to him? Was I wearing a pink feather boa without realizing it? I don't recall the phrase, "Suck my cock" entering the conversation, and I don't have a sign around my neck that reads, "Please, You Homosexuals, Suck My Cock."

I've got nothing against homosexuals. Let them be free to do their gay thing in peace, I say. But when they start sucking my cock, I've got a real problem.

Then there was the time I was hiking through the woods and came across a rugged-looking, blond-haired man in his early 30s. He seemed straight enough to me while we were bathing in that mountain stream, but, before you know it, he's sucking my cock!

What is it with these homos? Can't they control their sexual urges? Aren't there enough gay cocks out there for them to suck on without them having to target normal people like me?

 

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