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Do You feel safe now?

 
 
Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2008 04:56 pm
Now that military officers selected by the Bush Pentagon have reached a split verdict convicting Salim Hamdan, a onetime driver for Osama bin Laden, of supporting terrorism, but innocent of terrorist conspiracy, do you feel safe?

Or are we superpower Americans still at risk until we capture bin Laden's dentist, barber, and the person who installed the carpet in his living room?

The Bush regime with its comic huffings and puffings is unaware that it has made itself the laughingstock of the world, a comedy version of the Third Reich.


http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=13265
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2008 06:02 pm
Among the groups protesting against the verdict last night was the British-based legal charity Reprieve. "These trials are not just about a few men and what they may have done - they are about the message the United States is sending to the world. And that message right now is flat wrong: convictions by any means necessary," said Reprieve's senior counsel Zachary Katznelson. "The US needs to show it stands for openness and fairness - the very values we are fighting for. Instead, we get verdicts rammed down the gullet of justice."

The conviction also drew scorn from Ben Wizner, of the American Civil Liberties Union, who was allowed at the trial. "We were told that Guantanamo was necessary because these were the world's most dangerous terrorists," he said. "Salim Hamdan is not one of the world's most dangerous terrorists."

That the first Guantanamo conviction should involve a driver might seem oddly anticlimactic.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/outrage-as-us-military-convicts-bin-ladens-driver-of-war-crimes-887127.html
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2008 06:06 pm
Be Human and expose hypocracy
The lawyers argued that this framework made the tribunals unconstitutional because it allowed the president to define the crime and select the prosecutor and judges who acted as jury.

Hamdan alleged that he was beaten, forced into painful positions, subjected to extreme cold temperatures and threatened with death in 2001 and early 2002.

He also described being kept in such extreme isolation after being transferred to Guantánamo that he once considered "pleading guilty in order to get out of here".

After Hamdan won his landmark ruling against the first military commissions, he was again charged under the new system of tribunals.

After seven years in detention, he was tried by a military court and convicted of supporting terrorism but acquitted of the more serious charge of conspiring with al-Qaida.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/06/osamabinladen.guantanamo1
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Reply Thu 7 Aug, 2008 06:14 pm
I am extremely sorry to expose my ignorance.
The Americans have recently started devoting greater resources to the hunt for the man on the top of their most wanted list. George Bush, it seems, wants the man he vowed to capture "dead or alive" before he leaves office. There have also been reports of Bin Laden at various points in Pakistan's border region, some of them placing him in north Waziristan where the "Pakistani Taliban" is the de facto ruler after a series of deals with the government in Islamabad. There have also been reports that the US came close to killing Ayman al-Zawahiri, deputy leader of al-Qa'ida, in air strikes.

But US and British commanders privately admit they are seriously hampered by a lack of intelligence about the whereabouts of the al-Qa'ida leadership. They cannot depend on the ISI, the Pakistani secret service, which is widely perceived to back Islamist terrorists

In July 2006, the CIA unit tasked with hunting Bin Laden, codenamed Alec Station, was closed. Iraq was still the main focus of Washington's attention and it was felt resources were needed there.

The task of finding Bin Laden, said a senior security official, is now more difficult than ever. "Since the elections in Pakistan we have got to be more careful about carrying out air raids across the border, although if we have a sniff of locating Bin Laden there'll be no compunction about ordering a strike, but I wouldn't bet on when that will be."

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/kim-sengupta-why-bushs-dead-or-alive-posse-havent-got-their-man-887128.html
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Reply Sat 16 Aug, 2008 04:28 pm
@Ramafuchs,
Most of you speak a language which is not familiar to many.
Your English is like this.

"The meaning of words had no longer the same relation to things, but was changed by them as they thought proper. Reckless daring was held to be loyal courage; prudent delay was the excuse of a coward; moderation was the disguise of unmanly weakness; to know everything was to do nothing. Frantic energy was the true quality of a man."

Thucydides,
History of the Peloponnesian War

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