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Michael Moore's letter to Gen. Wesley Clark

 
 
Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2003 04:55 pm
A Citizen's Appeal to a General in a Time of War (at Home)
September 12, 2003

Dear General Wesley Clark,

I've been meaning to write to you for some time. Two days after the Oscars, when I felt very alone and somewhat frightened by the level of hatred toward me for daring to suggest that we were being led into war for "fictitious reasons," one person stuck his neck out and came to my defense on national television.

And that person was you.

Aaron Brown had just finished interviewing me by satellite on CNN, and I had made a crack about me being "the only non-general allowed on CNN all week." He ended the interview and then turned to you, as you were sitting at the desk with him. He asked you what you thought of this crazy guy, Michael Moore. And, although we were still in Week One of the war, you boldly said that my dissent was necessary and welcome, and you pointed out that I was against Bush and his "policies," not the kids in the service. I sat in Flint with the earpiece still in my ear and I was floored -- a GENERAL standing up for me and, in effect, for all the millions who were opposed to the war but had been bullied into silence.

Since that night, I have spent a lot of time checking you out. And what I've learned about you corresponds to my experience with you back in March. You seem to be a man of integrity. You seem not afraid to speak the truth. I liked your answer when you were asked your position on gun control: "If you are the type of person who likes assault weapons, there is a place for you -- the United States Army. We have them."

In addition to being first in your class at West Point, a four star general from Arkansas, and the former Supreme Commander of NATO -- enough right there that should give pause to any peace-loving person -- I have discovered that...

1. You oppose the Patriot Act and would fight the expansion of its powers.

2. You are firmly pro-choice.

3. You filed an amicus brief with the Supreme Court in support of the University of Michigan's affirmative action case.

4. You would get rid of the Bush tax "cut" and make the rich pay their fair share.

5. You respect the views of our allies and want to work with them and with the rest of the international community.

6. And you oppose war. You have said that war should always be the "last resort" and that it is military men such as yourself who are the most for peace because it is YOU and your soldiers who have to do the dying. You find something unsettling about a commander-in-chief who dons a flight suit and pretends to be Top Gun, a stunt that dishonored those who have died in that flight suit in the service of their country.

General Clark, last night I finally got to meet you in person. I would like to share with others what I said to you privately: You may be the person who can defeat George W. Bush in next year's election.

This is not an endorsement. For me, it's too early for that. I have liked Howard Dean (in spite of his flawed positions in support of some capital punishment, his grade "A" rating from the NRA, and his opposition to cutting the Pentagon budget). And Dennis Kucinich is so committed to all the right stuff. We need candidates in this race who will say the things that need to be said, to push the pathetically lame Democratic Party into have a backbone -- or get out of the way and let us have a REAL second party on the ballot.

But right now, for the sake and survival of our very country, we need someone who is going to get The Job done, period. And that job, no matter whom I speak to across America -- be they leftie Green or conservative Democrat, and even many disgusted Republicans -- EVERYONE is of one mind as to what that job is:

Bush Must Go.

This is war, General, and it's Bush & Co.'s war on us. It's their war on the middle class, the poor, the environment, their war on women and their war against anyone around the world who doesn't accept total American domination. Yes, it's a war -- and we, the people, need a general to beat back those who have abused our Constitution and our basic sense of decency.

The General vs. the Texas Air National Guard deserter! I want to see that debate, and I know who the winner is going to be.

The other night, when you were on Bill Maher's show, he began by reading to you a quote from Howard Dean where he (Dean) tried to run away from the word "liberal." Maher said to you, so, General, do you want to run away from that word? Without missing a beat, you said "No!" and you reminded everyone that America was founded as a "liberal democracy." The audience went wild with applause.

That is what we have needed for a long time on our side -- guts. I am sure there are things you and I don't see eye to eye on, but now is the time for all good people from the far left to the middle of the road to bury the damn hatchet and get together behind someone who is not only good on the issues but can beat George W. Bush. And where I come from in the Midwest, General, I know you are the kind of candidate that the average American will vote for.

Michael Moore likes a general? I never thought I'd write these words. But desperate times call for desperate measures. I want to know more about you. I want your voice heard. I would like to see you in these debates. Then let the chips fall where they may -- and we'll all have a better idea of what to do. If you sit it out, then I think we all know what we are left with.

I am asking everyone I know to send an email to you now to encourage you to run, even if they aren't sure they would vote for you. (Wesley Clark's email address is:

http://www.leadershipforamerica.org/contact.asp?page=9).

None of us truly know how we will vote five months from now or a year from now. But we do know that this race needs a jolt -- and Bush needs to know that there is one person he won't be able to Dukakisize.

Take the plunge, General Clark. At the very least, the nation needs to hear what you know about what was really behind this invasion of Iraq and your fresh ideas of how we can live in a more peaceful world. Yes, your country needs you to perform one more act of brave service -- to help defeat an enemy from within, at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, an address that used to belong to "we, the people."

Yours,

Michael Moore
Lottery # 275, U.S. military draft, 1972
Conscientious Objector applicant
mailto:[email protected]

http://www.michaelmoore.com
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2003 05:17 pm
Are you wearing your shitstorm slicker, Bumble?

'Cause the paleoconservatives, as well as the Mean-for-Deanies, are readying their diatribes this very moment...
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sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2003 05:21 pm
Hmmm.

I wish Clark had held political office at some point. Experience counts for something.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2003 05:22 pm
PDiddie
PDiddie, I'm just posting, not advocating.

I have a large supply of Shitstorm slikkers that I've had to use all of my life. I even have a shitstorm umbrella to protect me when it falls from the sky.

---BumbleBeeBoogie
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2003 05:23 pm
Very interesting, PDiddie! I was thinking it might well be useful for Clark to get going, build a staff and a campaign, start testing himself against the others in debates and on the road. If he shows himself to be presidential material and Dean slips, there could be an excellent back up. If he doesn't pick up a lot of support but does well, gains respect, then he and Dean should run together since Dean's machine is well-tuned and running smoothly.

I like the fact that he doesn't run away from the term "liberal." After all, it doesn't have the blood and fecal matter on it the term "conservative" has accumulated during the past ten years or so.

Yrs truly,

Proud Liberal!
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2003 05:28 pm
I wasn't calling anyone out, Tart.

Besides, you're one of my favorites here. :wink:

I have read an enormous amount of filth being thrown at Dean, at Clark, and most of the rest of the Dem nominees today, and not by any means has all of it been shoveled by the right.

This promises to be the nastiest 14 months in history, judging by the way it's getting going.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2003 05:36 pm
Clark was on Bill Maher last week or the week before and was impressive. No trouble telling that Bill liked him.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2003 05:41 pm
Maybe I should go look at him on TV at the gym. I have a vague memory of him from Kosovo, and the occasional photo in the NYTimes. This is going to be very interesting and -- hell, we're used to **** flyin', we A2Kers!

Yes, on the Diane Rehm show this morning, interestingly, a couple of callers complained about the way Dean is being treated by the media (including NPR). We should check the Dean blog and see what the reactions are there...
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2003 05:44 pm
Take a look at this, PDid: http://www.gendeanblog.com/
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2003 06:05 pm
He's on a roll.

Nobody has mobilized his base online faster, more effectively, and worked it for cash like Dean has.

He's the front-runner--no question.

Now that he is the front-runner, what's the next step?

How does he build on the momentum? Expand the base (attract minorities, for example)?

How does he manage the attacks coming from both left and right?

These next few weeks are a defining moment in his campaign; because I think from here he either goes far forward, or starts to recede based on how he responds to these challenges.
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2003 06:51 pm
About damned time! I might actually have a candidate to campaign for rather then against. Been a long long time. As for prior political office experience, if memory serves me correctly, Dwight Eisenhower never served in political office, did he?


Read the entire article here.

http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-clark,0,3086108.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines



Clark Poised for 2004 Presidential Race


By WILL LESTER
Associated Press Writer

September 12, 2003, 2:07 AM EDT

WASHINGTON -- By all appearances, retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark is poised to enter the presidential race as the 10th Democratic candidate.

He's told friends he's leaning strongly toward entering the contest, he's contacted potential campaign advisers, and he's asked for political advice from many party veterans. The 58-year-old former NATO commander could shake up the crowded field.

Clark is scheduled to deliver a speech at the University of Iowa on Sept. 19, but is expected to make his decision before that, with an announcement likely in Little Rock, Ark.

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AP Political Writer Ron Fournier contributed to this report.
Copyright © 2003, The Associated Press
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Fri 12 Sep, 2003 09:01 pm
Though I don't think it's a quality of Dean's, it certainly is a characteristic of his campaign -- miles wide and an inch deep. At least so it is perceived. (In fact, having attended Dean rallies, I know that is not true -- that the attendees, Dean supporters, ralliers, are passionate and informed.)

But perception is everything (in spite of what we've experienced in A2K) and the Dean campaign-meisters probably recognize by now that issues must be dealt with in full and with intellectual and political integrity. I think it will happen. Possibly Clark's entry into the field will accelerate it. Dean likes Clark, admires him. That (frankly) eased me over, somewhat, some bad feelings I have about the Gen. post Yugoslavia. So I don't think this is an either/or situation. I think each will be informing the other, as they have been, though this may become more indirect than direct.
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Italgato
 
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Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2003 12:34 am
I think Michael Moore's letter to General Clark is a good one if only for its support for the General.

I do believe that a Dean/Clark ticket would be a good thing for the future of the USA.

I will keep a close eye on the polls which will, of course, provide feedback as to how a Dean/Clark ticket would do.
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NeoGuin
 
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Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2003 08:33 am
I think that I saw that Dean has been making overtures(sp/word choice) to Clark to perhaps run as his VP?
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Sat 13 Sep, 2003 09:52 am
Daniel Schorr, who knows Clark "a little," says he's not considering the second place on the ballot.
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