Obama, McCain offer very different energy plans

At various times, both these bozos* had plans to temporarily reduce the federal highway fuel tax. It's going to be hard to take either of them seriously, everafter.

*No disrespect intended to Bozo the Clown.

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roger... does tis mean that you view Obama as a bozo like all of 'em?

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So, Obama wants to initiate programs that will show results long after his four years are up

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Obama aims to reduce oil consumption by at least 35 percent by 2030; among his ideas to curb demand is to increase the fleet average for cars and trucks to 49 miles per gallon in 18 years and increase it by 4 percent each year thereafter.

and McCain wants to initate programs that will show results before his four years are up

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McCain focuses on increasing oil supplies, emphasizing that his plan to end the 27-year-old moratorium on drilling off most U.S. coastal waters will free up "enormous energy reserves."

... and people think Obama has a better plan?

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McGentrix wrote:

So, Obama wants to initiate programs that will show results long after his four years are up
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Obama aims to reduce oil consumption by at least 35 percent by 2030; among his ideas to curb demand is to increase the fleet average for cars and trucks to 49 miles per gallon in 18 years and increase it by 4 percent each year thereafter.

and McCain wants to initate programs that will show results before his four years are up
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McCain focuses on increasing oil supplies, emphasizing that his plan to end the 27-year-old moratorium on drilling off most U.S. coastal waters will free up "enormous energy reserves."

... and people think Obama has a better plan?

What makes you think that we have the capability to bring any oil drilling online within 5 years? At all?

Obama's plan is a little more realistic, so yes, I think it's a better plan.

Cycloptichorn

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Realistic?! No. Any President that believes their programs will last beyond their administration has their head in the clouds. To say your plan now will take effect in 22 years is a nothing more then an empty campaign promise with zero hope of fruition.

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Ever heard of interim standards, McG? That's the way CAFE standards have been done for years. You have to meet rising mileage standards all along the way to 2030. You don't do it all in 2229. Duh.

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McGentrix wrote:

Realistic?! No. Any President that believes their programs will last beyond their administration has their head in the clouds. To say your plan now will take effect in 22 years is a nothing more then an empty campaign promise with zero hope of fruition.

Yeah... just look how fast FDR's programs disappeared...

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Sure, but what happens in 2012 when the next president decides those standards aren't realistsic and does away with them? They go away and Obama's plan is in the crapper.

Obama and McCain need to have an energy plan that will explain what they will do now, not in 20 years.

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And NASA, man, the moon launch idea died with Kennedy, must have been a pie-in-the-sky plan to get elected.

Cycloptichorn

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make that 2029, not 2229--which is a stock number for a product in my business, and some sort of unconscious slip.

Yeah, social security really had no shelf life at all, did it, OB?

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McGentrix wrote:

Sure, but what happens in 2012 when the next president decides those standards aren't realistsic and does away with them? They go away and Obama's plan is in the crapper.

Obama and McCain need to have an energy plan that will explain what they will do now, not in 20 years.

There's nothing TO be done now, McG. Don't you understand that? We can't bring additional capacity of any type online faster then 3 or 4 years; NOBODY will have the problem licked by 2012.

Cycloptichorn

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OCCOM BILL wrote:

McGentrix wrote:
Realistic?! No. Any President that believes their programs will last beyond their administration has their head in the clouds. To say your plan now will take effect in 22 years is a nothing more then an empty campaign promise with zero hope of fruition.
Yeah... just look how fast FDR's programs disappeared...

Really? You want to compare Obama's energy plan to FDR's social plans?

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McGentrix wrote:

OCCOM BILL wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
Realistic?! No. Any President that believes their programs will last beyond their administration has their head in the clouds. To say your plan now will take effect in 22 years is a nothing more then an empty campaign promise with zero hope of fruition.
Yeah... just look how fast FDR's programs disappeared...

Really? You want to compare Obama's energy plan to FDR's social plans?

Why not? They both are plans which were set to last far beyond the tenure of the prez. in question, something about which you said:

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Any President that believes their programs will last beyond their administration has their head in the clouds.

Apparently many of our most successful presidents had their heads in the clouds.

Cycloptichorn

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