While I think Helms was only too happy to be one of the Left's leading bogeymen, if you believed their standard assessment of him you might believe he was leading lynch mobs, stomping homosexuals, and leaving young female staffers in a lakes to drown.
It's hard to argue though that some of his notions, at least during his early years, were not racist.
A product of his time and region? I don't know if anyone suggests same, but I think it would be a mistake to do so.
I think conservatives can find more admirable standard bearers than Jesse Helms.
We know that he, unlike Sen. Robert Byrd, was never a member of the KKK, because if he was, his membership would have featured prominently in most of his obituaries. It will be interesting to see if Byrd's KKK membership is mentioned at the time when he is remembered after passing.
It's not surprising that Ann Coulter would lionize Jesse Helms. She'll say just about anything to get a rise out of Liberals.
Helms was fiercely anti-Communist and to the degree the Left criticized him for his positions in this regard, their disapprobation was, indeed, a badge of honor
So while he, clearly, had a number of fine qualities that distinguished him from many of his fellow politicians, he was, also clearly, on the wrong side of Civil Rights in the 60's. While preservation of tradition is a worthy conservative goal, not all traditions are worthy of preserving.
Byrd admitted to his racist history and recanted. What is now in his heart is not for me to guess, as long as he votes according to his stated view. I don't believe his obituary will ignore his past, but time will tell.
The left has only a faction or two that would defend Communism, other than as a way to rub the right's nose with it occasionally, but the people like Helms refuse to distinguish, preferring to paint all leftists as Communists.
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Helms was fiercely anti-Communist and to the degree the Left criticized him for his positions in this regard, their disapprobation was, indeed, a badge of honor
Anti-Communist meant being in favor of apartheid and against Martin Luther King.
Do the Boy and Girl Scout award these badges of honor?
Miller wrote:Foofie wrote:Cycloptichorn wrote:The title of this post honestly saddens me.
Cycloptichorn
We have found something to agree on!
So?
It bears upon the subject to point out that Miller as Dr. KaK at Abuzz condemned Mel Brooks as a race traitor for marrying a woman who is not Jewish, Anne Bancroft. I'm sure Miller/KaK rests easier since the woman died of uterine cancer in 2005.
I also suspect she has a case of the serious wet panties for the woman in her avatar.
Wiggers suck. At least those without soul.
cj, please define Wigger...
(yer due for a vacation, mind you...)
Nope, yer just the maroon propagatin' it.
to puppets everywhere...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx1XIm6q4r4
(a piece of advice, shooter. Know yer enemy...)
Spelling ain't your forte.
Come back another day.
And that video ---- seek counseling.
cjhsa wrote:Spelling ain't your forte.
Come back another day.
And that video ---- seek counseling.
It appears that grammar isn't yours. :wink:
Check the dictionary. I'm quite sure "ain't" has made it in there by now.
"Maroon" on the other hand refers to an ugly color of an old Chrysler LeBaron. I think they sold a lot of those north of the border. You should pick one up.
Zachary, also a nice way of calling ya slow...
Ya lebaron you...
:wink:
Finn dAbuzz wrote:edgarblythe wrote:Byrd admitted to his racist history and recanted. What is now in his heart is not for me to guess, as long as he votes according to his stated view. I don't believe his obituary will ignore his past, but time will tell.
We shall see
The left has only a faction or two that would defend Communism, other than as a way to rub the right's nose with it occasionally, but the people like Helms refuse to distinguish, preferring to paint all leftists as Communists.
You mean leftists like Castro?
Inflamitory rather than furthering the thought line.
To me, Castro is a mixed bag, some monsterous, some noble, and for everything he's done bad, the US and his predecessor did equal wrong.
edgarblythe wrote:Finn dAbuzz wrote:edgarblythe wrote:Byrd admitted to his racist history and recanted. What is now in his heart is not for me to guess, as long as he votes according to his stated view. I don't believe his obituary will ignore his past, but time will tell.
We shall see
The left has only a faction or two that would defend Communism, other than as a way to rub the right's nose with it occasionally, but the people like Helms refuse to distinguish, preferring to paint all leftists as Communists.
You mean leftists like Castro?
Inflamitory rather than furthering the thought line.
To me, Castro is a mixed bag, some monsterous, some noble, and for everything he's done bad, the US and his predecessor did equal wrong.
Inflamitory rather than furthering the thought line.
