Obama Voted For FISA

it remains a mystery to me.

I know. It sticks in my craw.

Not bad, Duck!

I don't like it either, by the way.

It's not a great move for America, is why.

Cycloptichorn

GODDAM, hes turning into just another assh ole.
I was gonna give money but now Im gonna write him a letter about his need of a clue..

so you won't be defending him about this vote?

what part of ass hole did you miss?

I meant cyclo bud....

grits teeth...

Nope. I don't really agree with him on this issue.

It's possible that he knew it was going to fail, and didn't want to seem like a failure during an election year; but I think I still would have worked harder to stop it. I think that these candidates, like so many others, have somehow failed to understand that showing leadership WHILE you are campaigning, is rare and impressive. Obama would have gotten a lot of cred for taking a stand on this issue, a hard one, and I feel he could have used his rhetorical strengths to really convey the issue to a lot of the American public.

His team chose not to do so, and I am disappointed. Playing it safe (which is what this is) won't get you anywhere.

Cycloptichorn

well... good for you.

Well, here's my man Kucinich on the bill. http://www.disinfo.com/content/story.php?title=Dennis-Kucinich-on-New-FISA-Bill

But, then, he's never a serious contender for the presidency because he's a big geek. Ah, well, whatcha gonna do.

vote early
vote often
vote Kucinich.

Right on, Kucinich.

This was a horrible vote.

hillary, on the other hand, voted against it.

so who's "bush lite" now, i wonders....

If Hillary had won the nomination, she would have voted for it as well, and Obama against it. Political opportunity and all.

Cycloptichorn

see?

now let's apply that rational to obama's opposition to the authorization to use force vote; before he was a u.s. senator. he was in a no-lose position. his supporters in chicago were mostly in agreement with him. and he had no liability of repercussions from the general american population. nobody outside of illinois knew who he was. or what he said.

hillary, on the other hand did. the whole congress did. also, consider the mood of the country at the time.

this place was absolutely crazed with great histrionics of people trying to out-patriotic each other. a real motherlode for manufacturers of cheesy little american flags that you could clip to your car window.

simply being against the war was declared "giving aid and comfort to the enemy".

the dixie chicks got blasted because they simply said they did not like dubya.

now, obama sides with the other weaklings in congress and ratifies and blesses bush's illegal invasion of privacy.

now if clinton had voted for it, would there be all of the rationalizing for her that obama's getting?

i don't think so.