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Tue 17 Jun, 2008 06:49 am
This is being broadcast tonight on CBS -- check your local guide:
http://www.afi.com/tvevents/100years/10top10.aspx
I voted in this compilation and know the results but don't want to be a spoiler!
Thanks for the reminder, LW. It looks like an excellent program.
Id like to see an honets list of the Worst 10 films.
I would vote for "pearl Harbor",
I am interested to hear Lightwizard's own list of the 10 worst films. Or yours, farmerman (if you guys keep such a list).
Here's IMDb's bottom rated 100 and the worst 10 are listed first, and this will, of course, be entirely different than someone's own personal list based on movies they have seen. Note "The Ten Commandments" at number 36. However, I can't help watching it to laugh and groan at the entirely campy dialogue and hammy performances, including Heston.
IMDb Bottom 100
Rank Rating Title Votes
1. 1.3 Alien vs. Hunter (2007) 1,385
2. 1.3 Troppo belli (2005) 1,238
3. 1.3 The Maize: The Movie (2004) 1,265
4. 1.3 Kis Vuk (2008) 1,155
5. 1.3 The Apocalypse (2007) 679
6. 1.4 Barschel - Mord in Genf? (1993) 670
7. 1.4 Zombie Nation (2004) 2,207
8. 1.4 Ben & Arthur (2002) 2,633
9. 1.4 Amoklauf (1994) 665
10. 1.5 The Hottie & the Nottie (2008) 14,691
11. 1.5 Popstar (2005) 687
12. 1.5 Erste Semester, Das (1997) 764
13. 1.5 Who's Your Caddy? (2007) 9,291
14. 1.6 Zodiac Killer (2005) 962
15. 1.6 Pledge This! (2006) 4,566
16. 1.6 Feel the Noise (2007) 1,514
17. 1.6 Die Hard Dracula (1998) 1,702
18. 1.7 Crossover (2006) 6,526
19. 1.7 Surf School (2006) 2,450
20. 1.7 SuperBabies: Baby Geniuses 2 (2004) 6,725
21. 1.7 The Tony Blair Witch Project (2000) 2,424
22. 1.7 The Hillz (2004) 2,804
23. 1.7 Anne B. Real (2003) 2,557
24. 1.7 From Justin to Kelly (2003) 14,918
25. 1.8 Dünyayi kurtaran adam'in oglu (2006) 3,442
26. 1.8 Manos: The Hands of Fate (1966) 16,456
27. 1.8 Miss Cast Away (2004) 718
28. 1.8 Ghoulies IV (1994) 800
29. 1.8 Witless Protection (2008) 2,054
30. 1.9 Going Overboard (1989) 4,584
31. 1.9 Santa Claus (1959) 1,157
32. 1.9 How She Move (2007) 2,530
33. 1.9 Bottoms Up (2006) 3,751
34. 1.9 Seven Mummies (2006) 894
35. 1.9 King of the Lost World (2005) 716
36. 1.9 The Ten Commandments (2007) 1,028
37. 1.9 Santa with Muscles (1996) 5,255
38. 2.0 House of the Dead (2003) 15,819
39. 2.0 Snowboard Academy (1996) 1,199
40. 2.0 Glitter (2001) 10,646
41. 2.0 Car 54, Where Are You? (1994) 2,094
42. 2.0 Keloglan kara prens'e karsi (2006) 2,183
43. 2.0 Troll 2 (1990) 7,199
44. 2.0 Chairman of the Board (1998) 2,337
45. 2.0 Leonard Part 6 (1987) 3,835
46. 2.1 Daddy Day Camp (2007) 4,243
47. 2.1 Ghosts Can't Do It (1990) 1,027
48. 2.1 Zombie Nightmare (1986) 747
49. 2.1 3 Ninjas: High Noon at Mega Mountain (1998) 3,668
50. 2.1 Catalina Caper (1967) 687
51. 2.1 Son of the Mask (2005) 9,863
52. 2.1 American Ninja V (1993) 1,025
53. 2.1 Love in Paris (1997) 1,570
54. 2.1 Cool as Ice (1991) 3,163
55. 2.1 Büyü (2004) 1,395
56. 2.1 Brothers in Arms (2005) 691
57. 2.1 Lawnmower Man 2: Beyond Cyberspace (1996) 4,038
58. 2.1 Seed (2007) 2,144
59. 2.1 Creepshow III (2006) 1,352
60. 2.1 Simon Sez (1999) 2,391
61. 2.1 Deep Core (2000) 669
62. 2.2 In the Mix (2005) 4,228
63. 2.2 Baby Geniuses (1999) 6,865
64. 2.2 Ape (1976) 741
65. 2.2 Meatballs 4 (1992) 905
66. 2.2 Hababam sinifi 3,5 (2006) 1,398
67. 2.2 Ed (1996) 2,403
68. 2.2 Alone in the Dark (2005) 18,724
69. 2.2 The Quick and the Undead (2006) 699
70. 2.2 Phat Girlz (2006) 5,007
71. 2.3 Dis - en historie om kjærlighet (1995) 1,320
72. 2.3 Turbo: A Power Rangers Movie (1997) 2,666
73. 2.3 Nine Lives (2002) 1,160
74. 2.3 Angels' Brigade (1979) 853
75. 2.3 Epic Movie (2007) 31,888
76. 2.3 Carry on Columbus (1992) 846
77. 2.3 Daniel - Der Zauberer (2004) 4,941
78. 2.3 Meet the Browns (2008) 1,569
79. 2.3 House IV (1992) 674
80. 2.3 Kazaam (1996) 8,778
81. 2.3 Yûgiô: Gekijô-ban (2004) 2,160
82. 2.3 Gigli (2003) 22,735
83. 2.3 The Smokers (2000) 1,571
84. 2.3 Jail Bait (1954) 881
85. 2.3 Anus Magillicutty (2003) 2,778
86. 2.3 Hobgoblins (1988) 3,641
87. 2.3 Five the Hard Way (1969) 822
88. 2.3 American Soldiers (2005) 1,250
89. 2.3 Levottomat 3 (2004) 1,492
90. 2.3 The Last Sign (2005) 872
91. 2.3 The Perfect Holiday (2007) 993
92. 2.3 It's Pat (1994) 4,892
93. 2.3 Shark: Rosso nell'oceano (1984) 916
94. 2.3 Battlefield Earth: A Saga of the Year 3000 (2000) 29,361
95. 2.3 You Got Served (2004) 14,958
96. 2.4 Soccer Dog: The Movie (1999) 722
97. 2.4 Glam (2001) 1,140
98. 2.4 Track of the Moon Beast (1976) 1,124
99. 2.4 The Invisible Maniac (1990) 1,131
100. 2.4 Toter hing im Netz, Ein (1960) 1,171
If I compiled my own list, TTC and "Battlefield Earth" would both be on it. But it wouldn't be a list of the obvious, but those films which had the pretense to be impressive and failed miserably.
LW,
IMDB lists a 2007 version of The Ten Commandments. Is that a typo?
(The 1954 version would also be on my worst list. Vincent Price behaved like he was playing the Marquis De Sade. John Derek looked far too well groomed to be a slave. The movie was unintentionally funny.)
what was the old epic movie in which Tony Curtis had the line
"Yonda is da castle of my faddah"
I don't heed worst lists. There are entirely too many awful films to be able to accurately state which suck the most. The TV show about the top ten of each genre, now, I've seen it advertised, and am interested. I already know, I don't much like some of their picks, from the trailers they've shown (Godfather), but it will be interesting.
The lists:
ANIMATION
1 SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN DWARFS 1937
2 PINOCCHIO 1940
3 BAMBI 1942
4 THE LION KING 1994
5 FANTASIA 1940
6 TOY STORY 1995
7 BEAUTY AND THE BEAST 1991
8 SHREK 2001
9 CINDERELLA 1950
10 FINDING NEMO 2003
FANTASY
1 THE WIZARD OF OZ 1939
2 THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING 2001
3 IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE 1946
4 KING KONG 1933
5 MIRACLE ON 34th STREET 1947
6 FIELD OF DREAMS 1989
7 HARVEY 1950
8 GROUNDHOG DAY 1993
9 THE THIEF OF BAGDAD 1924
10 BIG 1988
GANGSTER
1 THE GODFATHER 1972
2 GOODFELLAS 1990
3 THE GODFATHER PART II 1974
4 WHITE HEAT 1949
5 BONNIE AND CLYDE 1967
6 SCARFACE: THE SHAME OF A NATION 1932
7 PULP FICTION 1994
8 THE PUBLIC ENEMY 1931
9 LITTLE CAESAR 1930
10 SCARFACE 1983
SCIENCE FICTION
1 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY 1968
2 STAR WARS: EPISODE IV - A NEW HOPE 1977
3 E.T. - THE EXTRA TERRESTRIAL 1982
4 A CLOCKWORK ORANGE 1971
5 THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL 1951
6 BLADE RUNNER 1982
7 ALIEN 1979
8 TERMINATOR 2: JUDGMENT DAY 1991
9 INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS 1956
10 BACK TO THE FUTURE 1985
WESTERN
1 THE SEARCHERS 1956
2 HIGH NOON 1952
3 SHANE 1953
4 UNFORGIVEN 1992
5 RED RIVER 1948
6 THE WILD BUNCH 1969
7 BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID 1969
8 McCABE & MRS. MILLER 1971
9 STAGECOACH 1939
10 CAT BALLOU 1965
SPORTS
1 RAGING BULL 1980
2 ROCKY 1976
3 THE PRIDE OF THE YANKEES 1942
4 HOOSIERS 1986
5 BULL DURHAM 1988
6 THE HUSTLER 1961
7 CADDYSHACK 1980
8 BREAKING AWAY 1979
9 NATIONAL VELVET 1944
10 JERRY MAGUIRE 1996
MYSTERY
1 VERTIGO 1958
2 CHINATOWN 1974
3 REAR WINDOW 1954
4 LAURA 1944
5 THE THIRD MAN 1949
6 THE MALTESE FALCON 1941
7 NORTH BY NORTHWEST 1959
8 BLUE VELVET 1986
9 DIAL M FOR MURDER 1954
10 THE USUAL SUSPECTS 1995
ROMANTIC COMEDY
1 CITY LIGHTS 1931
2 ANNIE HALL 1977
3 IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT 1934
4 ROMAN HOLIDAY 1953
5 THE PHILADELPHIA STORY 1940
6 WHEN HARRY MET SALLY ... 1989
7 ADAM'S RIB 1949
8 MOONSTRUCK 1987
9 HAROLD AND MAUDE 1971
10 SLEEPLESS IN SEATTLE 1993
COURTROOM DRAMA
1 TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD 1962
2 12 ANGRY MEN 1957
3 KRAMER VS. KRAMER 1979
4 THE VERDICT 1982
5 A FEW GOOD MEN 1992
6 WITNESS FOR THE PROSECUTION 1957
7 ANATOMY OF A MURDER 1959
8 IN COLD BLOOD 1967
9 A CRY IN THE DARK 1988
10 JUDGMENT AT NUREMBERG 1961
EPIC
1 LAWRENCE OF ARABIA 1962
2 BEN-HUR 1959
3 SCHINDLER'S LIST 1993
4 GONE WITH THE WIND 1939
5 SPARTACUS 1960
6 TITANIC 1997
7 ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT 1930
8 SAVING PRIVATE RYAN 1998
9 REDS 1981
10 THE TEN COMMANDMENTS 1956
A few observations:
Fantasy: What is this mish-mash? What criteria could possibly put
King Kong and
It's a Wonderful Life in the same category? There are no fantasy elements in
King Kong -- it's a monster movie, plain and simple. Likewise, the fantasy in
The Lord of the Rings is of an entirely different character from that in, say,
Big. It's not like Frodo wakes up at the end of the
The Return of the King and discovers it was all a dream.
Science Fiction:
A Clockwork Orange is a science fiction film? You coulda' fooled me.
Western: The continued and increasing popularity of
The Searchers still baffles me. And
Cat Ballou at number 10 -- what???
Mystery: The last time the AFI came out with a top 100 list, I surmised that the omission of
The Third Man may have been due to the fact that
the movie had been re-categorized as a foreign film. Well, apparently not, since it's number 5 on the mystery list. Which makes me wonder what the hell the voters were smoking when they made that last list.
Epic:It seems the AFI voters didn't think that
Ben-Hur was such a crappy movie.
Thanks for the lists, joe. I missed the first hour of the show.
I agree with every one of your comments, especially Ben Hur. I can't believe it's in the top 10, much less that it's #2.
Personally, I love Ben Hur and The Searchers. I've seen both multiple times.
wandeljw wrote:LW,
IMDB lists a 2007 version of The Ten Commandments. Is that a typo?
(The 1954 version would also be on my worst list. Vincent Price behaved like he was playing the Marquis De Sade. John Derek looked far too well groomed to be a slave. The movie was unintentionally funny.)
I scanned the list too quickly - the 2007 Ten Commandments was a TV movie. However, the 1954 would still land in my worst ten "big" movies that failed. Of course, now even the special effects look creaky. but I remember that was the only thing that impressed me on its first release.
To this day, Hollywood including AMPAS and AFI considers English language films, specifically British productions , as not being foreign films and are considered with American films, especially those featuring American actors. "The Third Man" is truly the mystery. Even the script from Graham Greene's novel was written by him, with Alexander Korda and the director.
"A Clockwork Orange" takes place in a future Britain and therefore is sci-fi, albeit mainly of the satirical, sociological kind. It was also made in England. I can agree it is the greatest satirical sci-fi film, and what movie would it edge out? I can't think of any off hand.
The glaring omission in Epics is "Citizen Kane," their top movie of the 100 and absolutely an epic story of a personal life, saga and epic being closely related to begin with.
I agree, Joe, that "King Kong" is a sci-fi horror film. Ten genres are going to be arbitrary. For instance, left out would be action/adventure, historical, satire, war, and most obvious, comedy and horror (where Kong should have showed up).
Lists are always going to be problem in trying to define movies.
King Kong is the only film that ever frightened me. I was a kid and had no truck with monster/ horror films previously, and it appeared without warning in the middle of our kiddie matinee.
ANIMATION
1 SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN DWARFS 1937
2 PINOCCHIO 1940
3 BAMBI 1942
Agree with top three, but not the rest. Ratatouille, for instance -
FANTASY
1 THE WIZARD OF OZ 1939
2 THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING 2001
3 IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE 1946
4 KING KONG 1933
5 MIRACLE ON 34th STREET 1947
6 FIELD OF DREAMS 1989
7 HARVEY 1950
8 GROUNDHOG DAY 1993
9 THE THIEF OF BAGDAD 1924
10 BIG 1988
Missed field of dreams, did not care much for Big and Groundhog Day
GANGSTER
4 WHITE HEAT 1949
5 BONNIE AND CLYDE 1967
6 SCARFACE: THE SHAME OF A NATION 1932
8 THE PUBLIC ENEMY 1931
9 LITTLE CAESAR 1930
10 SCARFACE 1983
Like these, not the rest
SCIENCE FICTION
Did not care for 2001, except the Hal sequence.
2 STAR WARS: EPISODE IV - A NEW HOPE 1977
3 E.T. - THE EXTRA TERRESTRIAL 1982
4 A CLOCKWORK ORANGE 1971
5 THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL 1951
6 BLADE RUNNER 1982
7 ALIEN 1979
8 TERMINATOR 2: JUDGMENT DAY 1991
9 INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS 1956
10 BACK TO THE FUTURE 1985
Missed three or four of these.
WESTERN
1 THE SEARCHERS 1956
2 HIGH NOON 1952
5 RED RIVER 1948
9 STAGECOACH 1939
Agree with these, but would replace the rest with Good Bad Ugly and others.
SPORTS
1 RAGING BULL 1980
2 ROCKY 1976
3 THE PRIDE OF THE YANKEES 1942
4 HOOSIERS 1986
5 BULL DURHAM 1988
6 THE HUSTLER 1961
7 CADDYSHACK 1980
8 BREAKING AWAY 1979
9 NATIONAL VELVET 1944
10 JERRY MAGUIRE 1996
I didn't watch these
ROMANTIC COMEDY
1 CITY LIGHTS 1931
2 ANNIE HALL 1977
3 IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT 1934
4 ROMAN HOLIDAY 1953
5 THE PHILADELPHIA STORY 1940
6 WHEN HARRY MET SALLY ... 1989
7 ADAM'S RIB 1949
8 MOONSTRUCK 1987
9 HAROLD AND MAUDE 1971
10 SLEEPLESS IN SEATTLE 1993
COURTROOM DRAMA
1 TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD 1962
2 12 ANGRY MEN 1957
3 KRAMER VS. KRAMER 1979
4 THE VERDICT 1982
5 A FEW GOOD MEN 1992
6 WITNESS FOR THE PROSECUTION 1957
7 ANATOMY OF A MURDER 1959
Didn't stay awake for In Cold Blood
9 A CRY IN THE DARK 1988
10 JUDGMENT AT NUREMBERG 1961
EPIC
1 LAWRENCE OF ARABIA - slept through twice
2 BEN-HUR 1959
3 SCHINDLER'S LIST 1993 - missed
4 GONE WITH THE WIND 1939
5 SPARTACUS 1960
6 TITANIC 1997 - Would have put this higher up
7 ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT 1930
8 SAVING PRIVATE RYAN 1998
9 REDS 1981 - missed
10 THE TEN COMMANDMENTS 1956
Quote:SCIENCE FICTION
1 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY 1968
2 STAR WARS: EPISODE IV - A NEW HOPE 1977
3 E.T. - THE EXTRA TERRESTRIAL 1982
4 A CLOCKWORK ORANGE 1971
5 THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL 1951
6 BLADE RUNNER 1982
7 ALIEN 1979
8 TERMINATOR 2: JUDGMENT DAY 1991
9 INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS 1956
10 BACK TO THE FUTURE 1985
Did Lightwizard tell anyone (besides me) that he worked on the crew for the #5 science fiction movie?