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Ethnic diversity within America undermining unity

 
 
RexRed
 
Reply Tue 27 May, 2008 10:09 am
A friend of mine sent this to me today. Again liberals are handing out the American dream on a silver platter to those bent on destroying it. How the liberal progressives love tossing out the baby with the bath water.


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We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration overpopulation conference in Washington , DC , filled to capacity by many of America 's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by the name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, 'Mexifornia,' explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal was destroying the entire state of California . He said it would march across the country unti l it destroyed all vestige s of The American Dream.


Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America . The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States . He said, 'If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America . It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of hi story would show that all great nations commit suicide.''


'Here is how they do it,' Lamm said: 'First, to destroy America , turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country.' History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: 'The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy.' Canada , Belgium , Malaysia , and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans.'.


Lamm went on: Second, to destroy America , 'Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. Make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences Make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.


Third, 'We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: 'The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.'
Lamm said, 'I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities.'


'Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school.'


'My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology' I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population.'


'My sixth plan for America 's downfall would include dual citizenship, and promote divided loyalties I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common Language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A comm on enemy, Persia , threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. 'E. Pluribus Unum' --From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'Unum,' we will balkanize America as surely as Kosovo.'


'Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits; make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate. Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America , it must always be good. I would make every ind ividual immigrant symmetri c and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them.'


In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said,. 'Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book 'Mexifornia.' His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America . If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book.'


There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.' American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America - take note of California</st1> and other states - to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book '1984.' In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: 'War is peace,' 'Freedom is slavery,' and 'Ignorance is strength.'


Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path especially The American Dream.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 27 May, 2008 10:12 am
That was 2005, this is 2008 - three years later - and America seems to be ticking on just fine.

In other news, you are still not posting anything here worth anyone's time, other then maybe to provide an easy target.

Cycloptichorn
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 27 May, 2008 10:17 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
That was 2005, this is 2008 - three years later - and America seems to be ticking on just fine.

In other news, you are still not posting anything here worth anyone's time, other then maybe to provide an easy target.

Cycloptichorn


Well if you check wikipedia as of today, nothing has changed in three years.

Excerpt:

The United States does not have an official language, but English is spoken by about 82% of the population as a native language, with a majority of English speakers being' monolingual.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_the_United_States
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Francis
 
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Reply Tue 27 May, 2008 10:21 am
RexRed wrote:
The United States does not have an official language, but English is spoken by about 82% of the population as a native language, with a majority of English speakers being' monolingual.


And the remaining speak with forked tongue?
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woiyo
 
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Reply Tue 27 May, 2008 10:50 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
That was 2005, this is 2008 - three years later - and America seems to be ticking on just fine.

In other news, you are still not posting anything here worth anyone's time, other then maybe to provide an easy target.

Cycloptichorn


Because these things do not happen overnight, does not mean it can not happen over time. it is happening and in 20 years or so, we will be what is described.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 27 May, 2008 11:09 am
At the dawn of the nation's history, there was a large population of native Germans, or native Americans who were also native German-speakers, within a population of English, Scots, Scots-Irish and Irish who were native English-speakers representing almost the entirety of the rest of the population--and it did not sink the nation.

The political movement which was officially called the American Party, and which was known as the "Know Nothing" party (because adherents were instructed to say "I know nothing" if questioned about the party) was anti-Catholic and anti-Irish, and attempted to force a "nativist" agenda on the nation, opposing immigration and naturalization. It did not destroy the nation.

Before 1865, a large proportion of the population were owners of slaves, or citizens of states which permitted slavery, while the majority of the population were not slave owners, did not live in states in which slavery was practices, and a great many of whom can reasonably be alleged to have been opposed to the institution of slavery. Despite the most sanguinary war in our nation's history, it did not destroy the nation.

Until the very end of the 19th century, and to a lesser extent, well into the 20th century, hatred of Catholics was so strong that the famous New York cartoonist, Thomas Nast, actively worked against Catholic orphanages (at a time when the state did not maintain orphanages) because it was an attack on "pure" Protestant boys and girls. The will to white, Protestant ascendancy was so strong, that the Lily White movement grew up, at first among Protestants of the South, and then later spreading to the entire country--and which movement condemned all who were not "white" men and women, and who were not Protestant. It did not destroy the nation.

Hatred of Jews was sufficiently strong in America that the false accusation of murder against Leo Frank in Atlanta, Georgia in 1913, when he was convicted and had his sentence commuted by the Governor to life in prison, but was lynched by a publicly organized lynch mob who never did a day in jail for the crime--that it was one of the justifications for the re-founding of the Ku Klux Klan in 1915. It also lead to the foundation of the Jewish Anti-Defamation League. These events did not destroy the nation.

Everyone here should be familiar with the civil rights movement, and the struggle blacks have had to be treated as citizens equal to whites.

This is just the sort of typical, disgusting and racist crap one can expect from conservatives. It doesn't surprise me at all to see it from Rex.
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hamburger
 
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Reply Tue 27 May, 2008 11:10 am
Quote:
Because these things do not happen overnight, does not mean it can not happen over time. it is happening and in 20 years or so, we will be what is described.


bookmarked - will recheck in 2028 .

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Because these things do not happen overnight, does not mean it can not happen over time


i would suggest that just about anything can happen over time - problem is , we don't know what will happen - i hardly know what will happen tomorrow .
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 27 May, 2008 11:16 am
RexRed wrote:
Well if you check wikipedia as of today, nothing has changed in three years.

Excerpt:

The United States does not have an official language, but English is spoken by about 82% of the population as a native language, with a majority of English speakers being' monolingual.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_the_United_States

And how many speak Cherokee or Sioux?
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hamburger
 
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Reply Tue 27 May, 2008 11:21 am
Quote:
Cherokee Nation


"They took the whole Cherokee Nation
Put us on this reservation
Took away our ways of life
The tomahawk and the bow and knife
Took away our native tongue
And taught their English to our young
And all the beads we made by hand
Are nowadays made in Japan

Cherokee people, Cherokee tribe
So proud to live, so proud to die

They took the whole Indian Nation
Locked us on this reservation
Though I wear a shirt and tie
I'm still part red man deep inside

Cherokee people, Cherokee tribe
So proud to live, so proud to die

But maybe someday when they've learned
Cherokee Nation will return
Will return...
Will return...
Will return...
Will return."

John D. Loudermilk


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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 27 May, 2008 11:51 am
hamburger wrote:
Quote:
Because these things do not happen overnight, does not mean it can not happen over time. it is happening and in 20 years or so, we will be what is described.


bookmarked - will recheck in 2028 .

Quote:
Because these things do not happen overnight, does not mean it can not happen over time


i would suggest that just about anything can happen over time - problem is , we don't know what will happen - i hardly know what will happen tomorrow .


Consider, we might all be speaking Greek had the Greeks known what was coming...
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hamburger
 
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Reply Tue 27 May, 2008 12:04 pm
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Consider, we might all be speaking Greek had the Greeks known what was coming...


HAD I KNOWN , i would have bought gold at $35 an ounce ... but ...

(if i had learned greek , i'd be able to read many important works of world literature in its original language ... but ... now i have to be satisfied with books in english and german :wink: )
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Tue 27 May, 2008 04:16 pm
Re: Ethnic diversity within America undermining unity
RexRed wrote:
A friend of mine sent this to me today. Again liberals are handing out the American dream on a silver platter to those bent on destroying it. How the liberal progressives love tossing out the baby with the bath water.


It is the white supremacist anti-diversity racists who have the problem not the overwhelming majority of those under 50 who now celebrate and embrace diversity. Those (mostly old white folks) who rail against diversity are dying out. A new day is dawning. I hope I live to see it come to complete fruition.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2008 07:43 am
Nonsense from a pea-brain.

No generation embraced your so called "diversity" more than this generation (sub 60's). The largest influx of LEGAL immigrants came to this country from all corners of the world. The big difference between then and today is those legal immigrants came to American to BE AMERICANS and assimilate into our culture. Today, most only want to be in America and will be happy to be "wards of the State" and will not assimilate.

It has nothing to do with skin color but everything to do with attitude.
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engineer
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2008 09:32 am
woiyo wrote:
Nonsense from a pea-brain.

No generation embraced your so called "diversity" more than this generation (sub 60's). The largest influx of LEGAL immigrants came to this country from all corners of the world. The big difference between then and today is those legal immigrants came to American to BE AMERICANS and assimilate into our culture. Today, most only want to be in America and will be happy to be "wards of the State" and will not assimilate.

It has nothing to do with skin color but everything to do with attitude.

My experience it that the idea that immigrants came intending to assimilate is a myth. There are large sections of immigrant communities where people kept their native language and customs. Polish and Italian and Greek and Chinese neighborhoods where assimilation was not the goal, but something to be avoided. But eventually their children assimilated and their grandchildren were just part of the American fabric. I don't see anything different with the current wave of immigrants other than the ease of mass communication makes immigrant bashing and fear mongering easier.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2008 11:01 am
engineer wrote:
woiyo wrote:
Nonsense from a pea-brain.

No generation embraced your so called "diversity" more than this generation (sub 60's). The largest influx of LEGAL immigrants came to this country from all corners of the world. The big difference between then and today is those legal immigrants came to American to BE AMERICANS and assimilate into our culture. Today, most only want to be in America and will be happy to be "wards of the State" and will not assimilate.

It has nothing to do with skin color but everything to do with attitude.

My experience it that the idea that immigrants came intending to assimilate is a myth. There are large sections of immigrant communities where people kept their native language and customs. Polish and Italian and Greek and Chinese neighborhoods where assimilation was not the goal, but something to be avoided. But eventually their children assimilated and their grandchildren were just part of the American fabric. I don't see anything different with the current wave of immigrants other than the ease of mass communication makes immigrant bashing and fear mongering easier.


My experience is different than yours. While "neighborhoods" kept groups together, outside the "hood", most spoke english, worked, paid taxes and wanted to be part of the larger community of American Values.

Todays immigrants, many do not want to be part of our "community" but want to use our resources, refuse to speak the language and be a burden to taxpayers.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2008 11:06 am
woiyo wrote:
Nonsense from a pea-brain.

No generation embraced your so called "diversity" more than this generation (sub 60's). The largest influx of LEGAL immigrants came to this country from all corners of the world. The big difference between then and today is those legal immigrants came to American to BE AMERICANS and assimilate into our culture. Today, most only want to be in America and will be happy to be "wards of the State" and will not assimilate.

It has nothing to do with skin color but everything to do with attitude.


Complete BS!

First, there were thousands and thousands of ILLEGAL immigrants from Italy, Poland Ireland etc. etc. etc. The descendents of these ILLEGALS assimilated just fine, and many of them don't even know their grandparents were ILLEGALS.

Second, Pre-1960 it was all about race (except when it was about religion). There were immigration quotas that were specifically designed to make sure that most LEGAL immigrants were white protestant (which incidentaly is why many of the ILLEGALS of the 20th century were Southern European Catholics).

Third... the racial quotas were justified because everyone (at the time) knew that Catholic Italians and Irish and Poles (not to mention Jews) were unable to assimilate.

The immigrants of yesterday are the same as the immigrants of today. Some came legally... and some came illegally. They all felt the sting of bigotry... and they all ended up assimilating just fine.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2008 11:11 am
I'm amused at the idea that the US was ever in "unity."

Civil War, anybody?
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engineer
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2008 11:11 am
woiyo wrote:
My experience is different than yours. While "neighborhoods" kept groups together, outside the "hood", most spoke english, worked, paid taxes and wanted to be part of the larger community of American Values.

Todays immigrants, many do not want to be part of our "community" but want to use our resources, refuse to speak the language and be a burden to taxpayers.

We definitely have different experiences. While my experience today is mostly with the Mexican immigrant community, I see lots of people who want to work very hard, try to stay out of trouble and really appreciate the opportunities this country provides.
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