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Objectivism 101

 
 
Jenifer Johnson
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 07:06 pm
Ok, I will, but first I want to see Edgar play his cards. So I can have a good laugh at you so called philosophers. http://www.individual-sovereignty.com/pic/rotf.gif
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 07:25 pm
A clever ruse. David and Jennifer pose as proponents of objectivism and then begin to behave as strangely as possible in order to make objectivism look ugly.
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Jenifer Johnson
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 07:40 pm
wandeljw,

Where did I ever claim to be an proponents of objectivism?

I am a realist, where reality is objectively establish. Truth establishes reality, so if you want to label me something, call me a truth-seeker.

Since you here, please articulate for every the objective axiom which establishes right from wrong.
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DavidIg
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 07:41 pm
wandeljw wrote:
A clever ruse. David and Jennifer pose as proponents of objectivism and then begin to behave as strangely as possible in order to make objectivism look ugly.


I think aspects of Objectivism are criminal....in fact, the biggest Objectivist online forum is loaded with neo-cons.
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Jenifer Johnson
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 07:47 pm
DavidIg : I think aspects of Objectivism are criminal

I don't know enough about "Objectivism" to comment, but how is Objectivism, criminality manifested?
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 07:52 pm
wandeljw wrote:
A clever ruse. David and Jennifer pose as proponents of objectivism and then begin to behave as strangely as possible in order to make objectivism look ugly.

You know what, wandeljw, I think you're right. The kids are "having us on." Nice troll, Jenifer and David -- I give it a 7 out of 10.
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DavidIg
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 08:05 pm
Jenifer Johnson wrote:
DavidIg : I think aspects of Objectivism are criminal

I don't know enough about "Objectivism" to comment, but how is Objectivism, criminality manifested?


Well I probably should've said Objectivists rather than Objectivism, but Rand makes sure to criticize non-democratic/capitalistic states as evil/inefficient, and subsequently, genuine Randites think they have the right to topple any non complying government.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 08:30 pm
DavidIg wrote:
Chumly wrote:
A degree of moral absolutism based on genetic predisposition, or so one argument goes.

Nature versus nurture, and so the argument may continue.


Which argument?....can I beat, rape and steal from you, yes or no...?
The argument I referenced in the post I responded to; given as should be plain, that I am not making said argument per se.

It's not promising, yet unsurprising that you would take my post out of context, and respond with a straw man logical fallacy.
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DavidIg
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 08:35 pm
Chumly wrote:
DavidIg wrote:
Chumly wrote:
A degree of moral absolutism based on genetic predisposition, or so one argument goes.

Nature versus nurture, and so the argument may continue.


Which argument?....can I beat, rape and steal from you, yes or no...?
The argument I referenced in the post I responded to; given as should be plain, that I am not making said argument per se.

It's not promising, yet unsurprising that you would take my post out of context, and respond with a straw man logical fallacy.


Another person who's said nothing but thinks they're clever....yeah right Laughing Laughing
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Chumly
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 08:59 pm
Even less promising and unsurprising is your response with an ad hominem logical fallacy.
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Jenifer Johnson
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 09:06 pm
Joe: Nice troll, Jenifer and David

Where are your posts that have offered anything of substance to this thread, but for trolling and insulting?
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 09:15 pm
joefromchicago wrote:
wandeljw wrote:
A clever ruse. David and Jennifer pose as proponents of objectivism and then begin to behave as strangely as possible in order to make objectivism look ugly.

You know what, wandeljw, I think you're right. The kids are "having us on." Nice troll, Jenifer and David -- I give it a 7 out of 10.

I'm sorry, I was wrong to say that.

Apparently, Jenifer and David are just a couple of pathetic losers who go to various sites, spewing their vicious bile, and then complaining about the "Jewish/Zionist stranglehold of internet forums" when they inevitably get banned. And pity poor David -- now that he's running out of internet forums that he can infest, he has had to return to A2K, where he was pretty much laughed off the forum four years ago because of his obsession with ass-licking. Sucks to be you, David Henry, truly it does.

So I apologize for calling him and Jenifer trolls. They haven't the intelligence to be trolls. Instead, they're just a couple of sad, lonely pre-tards who get their jollies from saying naughty words and getting their hands slapped.
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DavidIg
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 09:28 pm
joefromchicago wrote:
[Apparently, Jenifer and David are just a couple of pathetic So I apologize for calling him and Jenifer trolls. They haven't the intelligence to be trolls. Instead, they're just a couple of sad, lonely pre-tards who get their jollies from saying naughty words and getting their hands slapped.


LOL, WOW, check out his reaction once he discovers we're on to him about Zionism.
You sound like a Jew, and you leap to their rescue despite being totally ignorant about the scope of Zionism.
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Jenifer Johnson
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 09:49 pm
David,

It is funny how when you out a Jew, they always resort to the same psychotic behavior. He is now stalking us, while banging his head against the wailing wall, accusing us of abusing his criminal mentality.

oy vey! oy vey! oy vey! oy vey! Little Jooo is so persecuted. http://www.individual-sovereignty.com/pic/rotf.gif
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DavidIg
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 10:31 pm
Jenifer Johnson wrote:
David,

It is funny how when you out a Jew, they always resort to the same psychotic behavior. He is now stalking us, while banging his head against the wailing wall, accusing us of abusing his criminal mentality.

oy vey! oy vey! oy vey! oy vey! Little Jooo is so persecuted. http://www.individual-sovereignty.com/pic/rotf.gif


Jen.

This guy is a big mouth know it all who knows nothing except how to defend gross pornography, Zionist's and his favourite celebrity philosopher's.......unfortunately, original thinking and critical thinking appear to be beyond him, however, his ability to disrupt threads is quite apparent, especially if they expose his precious little Joos....AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAA.
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Jenifer Johnson
 
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Reply Wed 21 May, 2008 11:13 pm
DavidIg : original thinking and critical thinking appear to be beyond him


I think you have discounted the true nature of his mentality. The first thing a child does is learn the objective axiom of right from wrong. So one either has to be brain dead or a criminal, because a criminal by definition, is one that can not differentiate between right from wrong, because of their sociopathic tyrant criminal mentality.

He has already exposed his "might makes right" criminal mentality.
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Thu 22 May, 2008 06:45 am
Animal Farm Reasoning:

Some New Members are more valuable than other New Members.
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Pete34
 
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Reply Thu 22 May, 2008 09:53 am
Speaking of which ... anyone wanna explain this objective human rights business?
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DavidIg
 
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Reply Thu 22 May, 2008 11:53 am
Pete34 wrote:
Speaking of which ... anyone wanna explain this objective human rights business?


Are you suggesting that you don't believe you're entitled to the right to life, liberty, property and the "pursuit" of happiness?
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DavidIg
 
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Reply Thu 22 May, 2008 11:56 am
Jenifer Johnson wrote:

He has already exposed his "might makes right" criminal mentality.


This is something I don't think most people understand, ie, if ethics are subjective, then who's to say what is or isn't right, and how else would one enforce their subjective ethics down your throat without superior force.
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