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I hope someone knows the answer to this

 
 
Reply Wed 14 May, 2008 09:20 pm
As the November election is ticking closer and closer to us and as we try ever so hard to get Ron Paul to win the September nomination at the GOP convention in St.Paul, I am often caught asking myself: what will happen to the Ron Paul supporters once November is through and the future President is already decided?

Many people, some pundits, some bystanders, have tried to classify us. Who is he, John Q. Ronpaulsupporter? Is he a Nazi, a truther, an anarchist, a Black Nationalist, a secessionist, a Liberal in disguise sent by George Soros to take over Grand Ole Party?

Of course, the answer is yes and no. Ok, so none of us are here because George Soros sent us to destroy Republican party, but as Ron Paul himself pointed out, we are just people who are tired of the status quo and want a serious second choice.

I will stress his point again, if only in a different verbiage. We are a bunch of folks who just want to be left the hell alone. The desire to be able to do one's own thing, whatever that may be, is what makes a black man and a white supremacist, a two times Bush voter and a bleeding hear liberal, a socialist and anarchist and a sworn atheist and a Bible believing church going before every meal praying Christian sit at one table and talk.

So far, Ron Paul is the only one in my recent memory who has been able to do exactly that. This is why it is so hard for people to really identify Ron Paul, because along with members of truly fringe counter culture underground sociopolitical currents, Ron Paul supporters are also house wifes, church pastors military veterans.

My question is: what will unite us all after it is all done? Please don't say "freedom". It is a beautiful, inspiring, but otherwise completely meaningless word. There is a Presidential candidate whose entire campaign is built on big, inspiring and empty words. You all know who I'm talking about.

I have raised this question in my Ron Paul meetup group. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to receive any coherent answer. I have been told that all of the politics are local, but my issues that are personally important to me such as illegal immigration, war on drugs and taxation and FIAT money, cannot be solved with an old sheriff out and a new one in. The local railroad commissioner or a mayor of my town of 200000 people is pretty powerless about this as well. This is why I can't really feel any use in participating in local politics because these issues are deep and trace to another city that is not in TX if you get my drift.

But let's suppose that mini-Ron Paul is running for the mayor of Dallas, whose jurisdiction my city is under. What good is our movement when we are fractured amongst ourselves on so many issues? What if he wants to get really medieval on illegals and some of us, like me, for example, feel that that issue is approached fundamentally wrong? What if he wants to let out all the non-violent drug offenders out of Dallas Co jail and some of you think that all drugs should be illegal and people using them should be punished?

Do you see what I'm saying? We can't even decide if Ron Paul jumping the GOP ship over to a third party is a good idea. Some of us say we need to change the Republican party. I personally feel it's a lot of crud, but, for unity sake, I am playing along. I am one of the delegates for the Texas State Republican Convention and if GOP is the vehicle to get Ron Paul elected, hooray to that. Some of us advocate joining a different party or even create one of our own. I am all for the former and not for the latter.

I think most of you understand the core of my question. So I will repeat it, only in a slightly different manner.

Ron Paul is the glue uniting people of very different and polar opposit views. What will be the glue to unite us ALL after the election?
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 14 May, 2008 09:25 pm
Certainly it won't be Mr Paul.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2008 07:41 am
People are too well informed these days. There will be no unity. Should the Democrat nominee win, people from the right will do everything in their power to bring every wart into plain view for all to see. Every decision will be scrutinized and bellowed about. The internet will continue the fracture in American politics.

Should the Republican nominee win, the left will do everything in their power to bring every wart into plain view for all to see. Every decision will be scrutinized and bellowed about. The internet will continue the fracture in American politics.

So, to answer your quetion: There is no glue in existance that will do what you want.
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Foofie
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2008 06:28 pm
Libertarian, as a political model, might have been acceptable for the prior centuries' frontier life, but it won't work today in a heterogenous society.

In my opinion, it was the libertarian thinking of native Americans that led to the ongoing wars with them thoughout the 19th century. The native Americans may have had ethics on their side, but the societal model of the White Man didn't allow for them to do their thing.

Libertarians, in my opinion, are Don Quijotes. They were born to late.
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hanno
 
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Reply Fri 16 May, 2008 03:35 pm
Don't worry, Libertarianism will stand. It's cool that they're making inroads, any press is good at this point, and figure Paul went Republican while some Libertarians are more sympathetic to the Dems, could be a sign that in the mainstream we will be more amenable in militarism. I mean, as-a-matter-of-principle is one thing, who does want to start **** except for me (hehehe, my only real disagreement, and even so only just, with the LNC) but Libertarians tend to be highly aware of the core functions of government, so I'm not worried about failing to TCB as necessary.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Fri 16 May, 2008 03:56 pm
Listening to Ron Paul... for some reason... always reminds me of George Carlin. The ideas are not the same, but the tone, delivery and the logic behind the punch lines are very similar.
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