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Fri 2 May, 2008 09:58 am
Members of the House of Representatives get to lease cars with taxpayers footing the bill, including maintenance, insurance, registration fees and ?- God help us ?- gas. Senators have to pay their own way. Of the 435 representatives in the House, 125 take advantage of this option, and only one owns a hybrid (Democrat Michael McNulty of New York leases a 2007 Mercury Mariner Hybrid).
Leased vehicles range from a Chevrolet Impala for $219 a month (Anthony Weiner, D-N.Y.) to a Lexus LS 460 for $998 per month (Gregory Meeks, D-N.Y.).
The purported reason for this fringe benefit is so representatives can travel across their districts to speak to constituents. That's all well and good, but does Florida Democrat Alcee Hastings really need to respond to constituent concerns in an Infiniti M45?
Furthermore, reading the Times article, it's surprising how many of the car-leasers are Democrats, and how many of these supposedly environmentally conscious politicians are trekking around in SUVs that get 16 mpg. Some of the offenders include Illinois Democrat Bobby Rush's Lincoln Navigator (13/18 mpg), Louisiana Democrat Charlie Melancon's Chevy Tahoe (15/20 mpg), and New York Democrat Edolphus Towns' Lincoln MKX (16/23 mpg).
the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, is not so caught up in the question of gas mileage. He leases a 2004 Cadillac DeVille for $777.54 a month. The car is 17 feet long with a 300-horsepower engine and seats five comfortably.
"It's one of the bigger Cadillacs," Mr. (Charles) Rangel, of Harlem, said cheerfully this week. "I've got a desk in it. It's like an airplane."
nytimes.com/2008/05/01/nyregion/01cars.html?_r=1&ref=automobiles&oref=slogin
I would drive a motorcycle. The lessons are around $750 here and I don't want to pay that so I'd make the taxpayers pay for my lessons, my bike and my insurance. Yeah. And my leather outfit and my tat.
I would ride everywhere on the backs of naked WWE female wrestler hotties....
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:I would ride everywhere on the backs of naked WWE female wrestler hotties....
Now THAT is a good use of taxpayer money...transportation and entertainment
I have absolutely no issue with this as long as they drive cars that are primarily of North American content.
.......as long as their sexual relations are primarily of North American content.
too bad ya dont have good taste huh
Maybe we should give them all H2's but make them buy their own gas.
I wouldn't drive. I'd take cabs.
And I'd tell my constituents I was putting their money directly into the hands of the working class by doing it. :wink:
A Ford Ranger, manual transmission, and it would have to be black....that's what I've always driven, and probably always will.....they have a decent fuel rating.
The reps should be held to a standard...something basic, with decent milage.
I'd keep both my own...
One's kinda gas mileage old style cool liberal,
and the other is 7 miles a gallon in yer face fun. :wink:
RH
And buy a house...
2PacksAday wrote:A Ford Ranger, manual transmission, and it would have to be black....that's what I've always driven, and probably always will.....they have a decent fuel rating.
The reps should be held to a standard...something basic, with decent mileage.
Believe it or no, the better most modern automatics can sometimes provide equal or better gas mileage with less maintenance costs, over the typical life of the vehicle, as compared to the manual drive train!
Chumly wrote:2PacksAday wrote:A Ford Ranger, manual transmission, and it would have to be black....that's what I've always driven, and probably always will.....they have a decent fuel rating.
The reps should be held to a standard...something basic, with decent mileage.
Believe it or no, the better most modern automatics can sometimes provide equal or better gas mileage with less maintenance costs, over the typical life of the vehicle, as compared to the manual drive train!
I do not refute that fact....but mine {thread title} would be a stick....it's a must...just like the color.
And here is an article in the LA Times from yesterday about exactly this subject...
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-na-cars1-2008may01,0,5368045.story
Quote:A little-noticed amendment to last year's energy bill requires House members who lease vehicles to select those that emit low levels of greenhouse gases.
Quote:WASHINGTON -- Rep. Elton Gallegly of Simi Valley likes his taxpayer-funded Ford Expedition. He isn't worried that it's not the most fuel-efficient car. It's reliable, suits his mountainous district and is cheaper to lease than many other vehicles.
"It's not a Cadillac. It's not a Lincoln. It's a Ford," the Republican congressman said with exasperation.
And anyone that knows the Simi Valley are would agree that he has a point, but...
Quote:Congress has been bearing down to do more about global warming. But a little-noticed amendment to last year's energy bill has hit especially close to home. It requires House members who lease vehicles through their office budgets to drive cars that emit low levels of greenhouse gases.
Among the victims: Texas Republican Joe L. Barton, who will probably have to give up his Chevy Tahoe, despite his protests that it is made in his district. "I guarantee you my district is not upset that I'm driving a Chevy Tahoe," he said.
The effort to steer lawmakers into vehicles that get better mileage comes as Congress has mandated more fuel-efficient vehicles for the public and pump prices have surged.
Quote:Rep. John D. Dingell (D-Mich.), the longest-serving House member, drives a Ford Escape Hybrid leased by his campaign but voted against the requirement because "historically, members have been held accountable by their constituents for these types of actions," said his spokeswoman
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Quote:Patrick Creighton, a spokesman for Rep. John E. Peterson (R-Pa.), who leases a flex-fuel Chevy Tahoe, said that the congressman's district is large, with mountainous terrain covered with snow part of the year -- "not the type of terrain a Mini Cooper was built to cover."
A number of lawmakers scoffed at the requirement, saying that forcing them into less-polluting vehicles would do almost nothing to affect climate change, and suggested that Congress could take more significant action to reduce oil imports.
Still other lawmakers objected to being told what to drive.
Rep. John T. Doolittle of Roseville, a conservative Republican, leases a Toyota Highlander Hybrid but believes lawmakers should be allowed to choose their own vehicles.
"I'm very excited about the hybrid technology," said Doolittle, whose family car also is a hybrid. "It would be great if every car were a hybrid. People might think, if they don't have one, well, those are the funny-looking, weak little cars. But a hybrid can give a tremendous power boost to a car."
Rep. Alcee L. Hastings (D-Fla.), who said he chose an Infiniti M45 because it is suited for the high speeds on Interstate 95, which runs through his district, said that safety is his top concern. "If you don't have some giddyup, you're in a lot of trouble," he said.
"I really would prefer to be driving a tank."
Its a 2 page article,and I find it interesting that this subject is being talked about now on A2K.
Coincidence...?