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Can We Hold Obama Accountable?

 
 
Miller
 
Reply Mon 28 Apr, 2008 12:04 pm
Yes, We Can Hold Obama Accountable
by Tara Tedrow (more by this author)

Posted 04/28/2008 ET
Updated 04/28/2008 ET

To paraphrase what Churchill said about the Soviet Union: Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign, background and fairy-tale image is a puzzle wrapped in a fiction inside a mythology. The voters of Pennsylvania began unraveling the mystery candidate and found the Left's emperor was without clothes.

Obama out spent Hillary three-to-one only to get whipped in the Pennsylvania primary by a double-digit margin. Those Bible and gun-clinging people of the Keystone state refused his evasions and apologies that Obama and his media amen chorus have been papering our eyes and flooding our ears with for more than a year.

Obama's stage cry of "yes we can" (referring to his "change" mantra) reminds me of Dorothy clicking her heels and saying, "there's no place like home." Obama has turned his "change" slogan into a self-limiting set of talking points. He seems unable to go beyond them. But it's not enough, and the voters of the upcoming primaries in North Carolina and Indiana will be laying in wait.

Issues close to the voters' hearts matter. In Pennsylvania they sat in those same duck blinds Obama made fun of and shot him down for not doing things expected of national politicians today, such as wearing an American flag lapel pin. His conjurer's spin about a twenty-year friendship with anti-American bigoted minister Rev. Wright fooled no one. His "answer" was a deception, an evasion and opened him to many more questions he's equally uncomfortable with.

Voters might not always tell the truth to pollsters, but behind that voting booth curtain the Pennsylvania gun and bible-clingers fired a shot heard round the world (or at least throughout the Democratic Party). It was the quiet people of faith toting their multi-generational family Bibles, seething that this man patronized them in the circles of San Francisco elites who look with disdain on "fly over" Americans between New York and the West Coast.

Will the voters of Indiana and North Carolina take their marching orders to forget about Obama's past, saying it's all just a right wing guilt-by-association campaign? Or, will they begin to see a pattern of associations of the guilty, wondering just how much more dirty laundry and anti-Americans are hiding behind his toothy smile.

Obama's media mavens?-such as Chris Matthews and the CNN news crew?-wilt at the suggestion that they even question Obama's association with unrepentant Weather Underground terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. The voters of the next two primary states and the voters in the November general election won't forgive and forget so easily.

While Pennsylvania was busy ignoring Obama's advertising attempts to rebuild his mystique, Obama has been furiously digging himself another political grave. In the last debate he said, "The notion that somehow, as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was eight years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn't make much sense."

Contrary to Obama's canned excuse, those detestable acts by the Weather Undergound weren't 40 years ago. On October 20, 1981 the`Weather Underground coordinated a robbery where two police officers and one Brinks guard were killed. That planned attack occurred when Obama was 20 years old, not 8.

No amount of spin made sense out of Obama sitting complicity and listening to the garbage spouted by Rev. Wright. Wright's "patriotic" phrase, "God d**n America!" was probably cheered on by Ayers and Dohrn, Obama's associates and enemies of the United State of America.

There is no excuse and no justification for Obama's long-term association with these two home grown terrorists. Even though Obama has quipped, "I think the American people are tired of these political games and petty distractions," the voters have spoken. These issues aren't petty. Obama has many questions to answer about his own games, not the least of which is how Ayers and Dohrn participated in his political emergence. They were there at the beginning. Why did they choose him, and why did he let them?

The "yes we can" man launched his political career in the home of "yes I planted bombs and proud of it" neighbor Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn's house in 1995.

Was his "community organizing" centered only on organizing to get himself anointed by Illinois State Senator Alice Palmer as her successor? What help, advice and campaign funds did Obama accept from Ayers, Dohrn and their ilk?

Ayers and his cohorts liked Obama so much that they contributed money and support to his campaign. How much? This is no right-wing bogeyman story. The Obama-Ayers association has been more than casual as Bloomberg News Reported. You can't hang out, publicly praise a terrorist's writings and serve for years on foundation boards together if there's not a relationship there.

Terrorist bombers and their political sympathizers who hang together should be publicly hung together by their own words, deeds and actions.

Judge them by their words and deeds. The Weather Underground got their name because they took to hiding to "commit strategic acts of sabotage against the government"- the same government Obama wants to run. But after years in hiding and dozens of acts of terrorism, Bill Ayers published a self-praising book, "Fugitive Days." In this collection of anti-American memories, Ayers bragged that he was part of the 1970's terrorist bombing campaign of the New York City Police Headquarters, the U.S. Capitol Building and the Pentagon. Ayer's also began this book with the line: "Memory is a mother f***ker, I myself remember nothing."

Seems Obama and Ayers share more in common than we thought.

But even though Ayer's wishes to forget his dirty deeds, close your eyes and think back to that moment you saw the two airliners crashing into the Twin Towers. Then try and find a way to forgive and forget Ayers, who stood up on the same day of infamy and said to the New York Times, "I don't regret setting bombs, I feel we didn't do enough."

What's scarier than Ayers' unapologetic criminality is his hand in our country's educational future. Ayers is the vice president of curriculum for the American Educational Research Association and would like nothing better than to have his underground anti-American visions become a reality in our nation's schools. As the left's golden "education president," Obama needs to have his feet held to the fire- do you agree with Ayers' socialist reading list and liberal indoctrination plans?

There is a lot more Ayers has said and much more that Obama should be pressed on.

Dinitia Smith of the New York wrote on September 11, 2001 that Ayers summed up the Weatherman philosophy as, "Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at." I guess it's alright for Ayers to cling to his bombs and memories of trying to destroy this country but not alright for Americans to cling to their Bibles.

Just like Obama's wife hasn't been proud of her country until recently, she surely gets along fine with her neighbor and supporter, Bernardine Dohrn, Ayer's terrorist jailbird wife, who probably doesn't bake cookies.

The woman who made the F.B.I.'s 10 Most Wanted List said after the brutal Manson Family murders told an S.D.S. audience in 1969: "Dig it! Manson killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, then they shoved a fork into a victim's stomach."

But that was when Obama was just eight years old. Dohrn is quoted by the New York Times, "It was a joke." Some joke.

Obama's Stepford crowds shout "Yes, We Can" and they're right. Yes we can hold Obama accountable for his associations with unrepentant terrorists. Yes we can tell the voters of America the disgusting words of praise for bombing America and celebrating maniacal killers. Yes we can condemn him for associating with the radical bomber Bill Ayers and for selling his soul to launch his political career in the living room of a demonic woman who reveled in the blood of the Manson murders.

Yes we can demand Obama take up Hillary's request for an unmoderated debate and ignore his excuses to avoid answering the questions that matter most. Yes we can condemn Obama's telling mistakes and block his road to Pennsylvania Avenue, one exposed fact at a time.

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djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 28 Apr, 2008 12:10 pm
wow. you really are quite the little one trick pony these days
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Mon 28 Apr, 2008 12:15 pm
Where (why?) do you come up with this garbage? I got as far as:

"Obama out spent Hillary three-to-one only to get whipped in the Pennsylvania primary by a double-digit margin."

Eh, no he didn't... and no he didn't. Rolling Eyes
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roger
 
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Reply Mon 28 Apr, 2008 12:20 pm
Debates are usually favored by losers, for the same reason vote recounts are. They have nothing to lose.
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candidone1
 
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Reply Mon 28 Apr, 2008 12:46 pm
Miller is, and always has been, a one trick pony.
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jasonrest
 
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Reply Mon 28 Apr, 2008 01:00 pm
A "terrorist associated" President sounds like a good deal in light of the alternatives. I'm glad this was posted. Very Happy
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Mon 28 Apr, 2008 11:07 pm
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Where (why?) do you come up with this garbage? I got as far as:

"Obama out spent Hillary three-to-one only to get whipped in the Pennsylvania primary by a double-digit margin."

Eh, no he didn't... and no he didn't. Rolling Eyes

Foolish mortal! Your puny facts are no match for Miller's monomania!
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Eva
 
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Reply Mon 28 Apr, 2008 11:13 pm
Perhaps this thread should be retitled, "Can We Hold Miller Accountable?"

Good one, Bill!
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NickFun
 
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Reply Mon 28 Apr, 2008 11:56 pm
You tell 'em Miller! We should all vote for McCain! He promises nothing! He vows to continue the war and create more suffering! He doesn't give a damn about global warming or health care or any of that fruity stuff! And Obama has only been in 21 debates with Hillary! Let's sh!t on him for not holding that 22nd one! McCain doesn't hang out ith the 'wrong crowd'!
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jasonrest
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2008 12:54 am
NickFun wrote:
You tell 'em Miller! We should all vote for McCain! He promises nothing! He vows to continue the war and create more suffering! He doesn't give a damn about global warming or health care or any of that fruity stuff! And Obama has only been in 21 debates with Hillary! Let's sh!t on him for not holding that 22nd one! McCain doesn't hang out ith the 'wrong crowd'!


What you gonna do when John McCain and all his McCainiacs run wild on ya!
McCain!
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Miller
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2008 05:37 am
joefromchicago wrote:
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Where (why?) do you come up with this garbage? I got as far as:

"Obama out spent Hillary three-to-one only to get whipped in the Pennsylvania primary by a double-digit margin."

Eh, no he didn't... and no he didn't. Rolling Eyes

Foolish mortal! Your puny facts are no match for Miller's monomania!


Spoken like a true Bo-Hunk... Laughing Laughing Laughing
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maporsche
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2008 06:01 am
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Where (why?) do you come up with this garbage? I got as far as:

"Obama out spent Hillary three-to-one only to get whipped in the Pennsylvania primary by a double-digit margin."

Eh, no he didn't... and no he didn't. Rolling Eyes


The AP is reporting that Obama outspent Clinton 3-1. Do you have some information that we are not privy to?

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iZecbKcAcd5BUKos1DBquVPqnlUQD907D5580
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2008 07:36 am
Miller wrote:
joefromchicago wrote:
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Where (why?) do you come up with this garbage? I got as far as:

"Obama out spent Hillary three-to-one only to get whipped in the Pennsylvania primary by a double-digit margin."

Eh, no he didn't... and no he didn't. Rolling Eyes

Foolish mortal! Your puny facts are no match for Miller's monomania!


Spoken like a true Bo-Hunk... Laughing Laughing Laughing

Spoken like a true Chicagoan-wannabe Laughing Laughing Laughing
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candidone1
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2008 07:50 am
OCCOM BILL wrote:
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Where (why?) do you come up with this garbage? I got as far as:

"Obama out spent Hillary three-to-one only to get whipped in the Pennsylvania primary by a double-digit margin."

Eh, no he didn't... and no he didn't.



maporsche wrote:
The AP is reporting that Obama outspent Clinton 3-1. Do you have some information that we are not privy to?

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iZecbKcAcd5BUKos1DBquVPqnlUQD907D5580


Clinton did not win by a double digit margin.
Her margin of victory was just slightly under 10%....
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maporsche
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2008 10:26 am
candidone1 wrote:
OCCOM BILL wrote:
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Where (why?) do you come up with this garbage? I got as far as:

"Obama out spent Hillary three-to-one only to get whipped in the Pennsylvania primary by a double-digit margin."

Eh, no he didn't... and no he didn't.



maporsche wrote:
The AP is reporting that Obama outspent Clinton 3-1. Do you have some information that we are not privy to?

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iZecbKcAcd5BUKos1DBquVPqnlUQD907D5580


Clinton did not win by a double digit margin.
Her margin of victory was just slightly under 10%....


I understand that part.

I obviously did not dispute that "...and no he didn't".

I was disputing the first "Eh, no he didn't"
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2008 10:30 am
maporsche wrote:
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Where (why?) do you come up with this garbage? I got as far as:

"Obama out spent Hillary three-to-one only to get whipped in the Pennsylvania primary by a double-digit margin."

Eh, no he didn't... and no he didn't. Rolling Eyes


The AP is reporting that Obama outspent Clinton 3-1. Do you have some information that we are not privy to?

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iZecbKcAcd5BUKos1DBquVPqnlUQD907D5580


The whole 'he outspent us, and we still won!' argument is BS to begin with. Hillary would have spent that money as well - were she able to raise it.

The test for her will be to come back and win NC and IN on the same day. It's the only real hope that she has. I can't think of a single state this cycle in which Obama was favored, but Clinton came back and won; yet, he's expected to do that in EVERY state in which she is heavily favored?

Cycloptichorn
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2008 12:02 pm
http://fish.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/27/much-ado/index.html

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But the literature the Clinton campaign is passing around about Obama and Ayers cannot be explained away or rationalized. It features bold heads proclaiming that Ayers doesn't regret his Weathermen activities (what does that have to do with Obama? Are we required to repudiate things acquaintances of our have not said?), that Ayers contributed $200 to Obama's senatorial campaign (do you take money only from people of whose every action you approve?), that Obama admired Ayers's 1997 book on the juvenile justice system, that Ayers and Obama participated on a panel examining the role of intellectuals in public life. That subversive event was sponsored by The Center for Public Intellectuals, an organization that also sponsored an evening conversation (moderated by me) between those notorious radicals Richard Rorty and Judge Richard Posner (also a neighbor of Ayers's; maybe the Federalist Society should expel him).

I don't see any crimes or even misdemeanors in any of this. I do see civic activism and a concern for the welfare of children. The suggestion that something sinister was transpiring on those occasions is backed up by nothing except the four-alarm-bell typography that accompanies this list of entirely innocent, and even praiseworthy, actions.

As for Senator McCain, in 2004 he repudiated the Swiftboat attacks against fellow veteran John Kerry, but this time around he's joining in, and if Obama gets the nomination, it seems that the Arizona senator will be playing the Ayers card. Of course, McCain knows a little about baseless accusations and innuendos, given his experience in South Carolina in 2000. And in case he has forgotten what it feels like, he may soon be reminded; for there's a story abroad on the Internet that says that rather than being a heroic, tortured prisoner of war, McCain was a collaborator who traded information for a comfortable apartment serviced by maids who were really prostitutes. I don't believe it for a second, just as I am sure that Senators McCain and Clinton don't really believe that Obama condones setting bombs or supports a radical agenda that was pursued (as he has said) when he was eight years old.

The difference is that I feel a little dirty just for having repeated a scurrilous rumor even as I rejected it. Apparently Obama's two opponents have no such qualms and are happily retailing, and wallowing in, the dirt.
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Jonsey
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2008 12:14 pm
Quote:
The whole 'he outspent us, and we still won!' argument is BS to begin with. Hillary would have spent that money as well - were she able to raise it.


agreed. he only spent three times as much because he had the bigger mountain to climb.
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jasonrest
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2008 01:23 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
maporsche wrote:
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Where (why?) do you come up with this garbage? I got as far as:

"Obama out spent Hillary three-to-one only to get whipped in the Pennsylvania primary by a double-digit margin."

Eh, no he didn't... and no he didn't. Rolling Eyes


The AP is reporting that Obama outspent Clinton 3-1. Do you have some information that we are not privy to?

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iZecbKcAcd5BUKos1DBquVPqnlUQD907D5580


The whole 'he outspent us, and we still won!' argument is BS to begin with. Hillary would have spent that money as well - were she able to raise it.
Cycloptichorn


Laughing
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