Jimmy Carter's Alternate Universe

Israel, human rights and the silence of [most] American Jews http://www.israelenews.com/view.asp?ID=1582 Carter is on the truth will set you free side of the street.

Those lovely Palestinian terrorists who wear black hoods, shoot AK's from the hip, and are always quick to yell "Death to America" whenever a camera appears?

I have such deep sympathy...

cjhsa, a few aks against Apache helicopters. Without that image of Palestinian terrorists who wear black hoods no matter how few Israel would have no propaganda to justify their ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. There are other Palestinians that you choose to ignore as completely as you do the truth of Israel's atrocities. "Non-Violence in the Palestinian Struggle
Posted Tuesday, February 13 2007 @ 09:11 PM PST
Maxine Kaufman-Lacusta examines the growing Palestinian non-violence movement.



Some Thoughts on Nonviolence and on the "Imperative of Joint Struggle" Against the Israeli Occupation of Palestine
Maxine Kaufman-Lacusta
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Ghassan Andoni (cofounder of the International Solidarity Movement www.palsolidarity.org interview Sept. 18, 2003): "You don't need two peace movements to arrive at peace. You need an active Palestinian resistance supported by an active Israeli peace movement or anti-occupation movement."

Mohammed Jaradat (Badil Resource Center for Palestinian Residency and Refugee Rights - www.badil.org interview Jan. 6, 2006): "If we do not have a strong Israeli community of resistance to the militarized society, to the racist regime in Israel, we will not make a big change."



In the fall of 2003, I embarked on an interview-based book project?-in coordination with Israeli Jeff Halper and Palestinian Ghassan Andoni?-with the aim of spreading awareness of Palestinian nonviolence. I wanted to bring the words and thoughts of Palestinian nonviolent activists like those quoted above, and their Israeli allies, to the English-reading public. After interviewing about seventy activists in September and October of that year (roughly equal numbers of Israelis and Palestinians), I made a second trip in December 2005 and January 2006, when I recorded several presentations from the conference on Celebrating Nonviolent Resistance held in Bethlehem December 27-30 and another twenty-plus interviews, both during the conference and while travelling in the region in the two weeks that followed.

A brief overview of past Palestinian Nonviolence link

O.K., this thread was started one day before Passover, which aside from the movie version, seems to show that the Jews didn't get along with other mideast groups prior to the birth of Islam. It's just all about land, in my opinion. And since Passover seems to promulgate the Jewish belief that that land was given by God, way before Arabs were given that land by their religion, then I think it is a stalemate of beliefs.

Now for Americans that are neither Moslem or Jew to show such interest in this ongoing debacle is also what is interesting.

What I find interesting is that those individuals that commiserate with the Palestinians' situation, relative to Israel, don't seem to make the one connection that the two groups must be very different, in that I can't believe that Israelis would become suicide bombers to further their position. What I'm saying is that, looking at history, I try to find other peoples that were willing to use suicide missions to win a war. Well the Japanese had Kamikazis, and there must have been others. That has not been the approach of the U.S., as far as I can recall. So, I really find it hard to commiserate with a group that on one hand talks about the humiliation suffered at the hand of Israel (at checkpoints for example), yet have a willing supply of citizens willing to commit suicide for the cause. This is really counter to what I think western thinking values life.

It makes me think that the desire for land is so great for one side that they are willing to sacrifice plain citizens' lives. It also makes me think that they value life differently, and therefore I personally sense a lust for land that is alien to me. Would the Israelis be suicide bombers if the sides were reversed? I tend to doubt it, since Jews lived peaceably in Moslem lands, as virtual second class citizens, since the inception of Islam.

My point is that in discussing the Israeli/Arab situation, I believe one is discussing two different life views. It reminds me of what American soldiers came up against in Vietnam.

The above is just my opinion.

j Carter if he walks in a slum in Calutta or adis ababa he will be hugged.
The same is not the case of his successors fame and name.

When do you sleep? It is past 3 a.m. in Germany when you made the above post.

It is 0438 Am sir.

So, when do you sleep?

The moment i feel fed up with the world..
Untill then i will observe the world as it is.
now it is 0450. in Köln

You watch/clock may be eight minutes fast? Regardless, a body and brain needs sleep to be healthy. Don't let me keep you up. Pleasant dreams.