Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 02:46 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
The very worst that I been hurt by any animal in my life was by a poor hurt cat I was trying to aid.

Did you get a widdle boo boo?
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 02:56 pm
@Ticomaya,
Quote:
Did you get a widdle boo boo?


Deep bleeding claws marks all over my hands. arms and chest and the shirt I had been wearing was ruin.

It kind of look like I had been drag through a barb wire fence.

What did amazed me this was all done in a blink of an eye.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 03:46 pm
@BillRM,
I did agree that they can attack - I actually stated that - what I said is from anything I can find, a house cat has yet to kill some one.
Linkat
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 03:50 pm
@BillRM,
We had gone from harming and being dangerous to killing?

Not exactly this whole thread and things you stated are all around killing - you stated that horses kill - tic stated that pit bulls kill - you mentioned that "Off hand I can not think of too many objects or animals safer to have in you household then a pit bull."

Off hand I was able to give two examples of animals that are safer in a household than a pit bull - seeing there are numerous examples of pit bulls killing and none yet of a house cat and none yet of my doggie breed (schipperke).

I am sure I can come up with others ....
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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 03:57 pm
@Linkat,
And once more that is not proven see the 1900s NYT article where they was not sure if an infant would live or not from a cat attack.

Second any attacks that required adults to be sew up I can see no reason that such an attack might not be deadly to an infant from blood loss if for no other reason.
Linkat
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 04:10 pm
@BillRM,
You are quite a character - ok getting scratched by a little kitty is much more scary and dangerous than a little pit bull.
Ragman
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 04:37 pm
@Linkat,
yes ...but quite incoherent and illogical.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 04:42 pm
@Linkat,
Quote:
You are quite a character - ok getting scratched by a little kitty is much more scary and dangerous than a little pit bull.


Cute but not what I had said.........

My statement were that I had never been harm by any of the many types of dogs I been around in my 62 years on this planet and the only animal that had done harm of any kind to me was a cat in need of care after being hurt.

Try being honest instead of cute for a time.

Oh I respect both dogs and cats as being predators however I do not fear them as if need be I am a larger and far more dangerous predator then they are. That by the way include Pit bulls and Dobermans and Rottweilers.

I happen to cycle a lot in areas with free roaming dogs are common and as a predator chasing a moving object is build into their brain wiring.

When a pack of dogs begin to chase my bike I stop and talk to them IDing myself as a human by so doing and that had always ended any sign of a hostility on their parts. Running means that you are likely a prey animal of some kind to them.

Other cyclists I had known had instead hits at them with their frame air-pumps or try to run away from the pack.

Both courses of actions had not work out at all as well for them as my stopping had for me.

Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 05:05 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
I happen to cycle a lot in areas with free roaming dogs are common and as a predator chasing a moving object is build into their brain wiring.

When a pack of dogs begin to chase my bike I stop and talk to them IDing myself as a human by so doing and that had always ended any sign of a hostility on their parts. Running means that you are likely a prey animal of some kind to them.

Roughly ten years ago I prosecuted a case where a 10-year old boy was riding his bike outside him home, and a pit bull running at large ran up and attacked him, knocking him from his bike. The dog tore his face open from behind his left ear to his chin. Gruesome photographs ... you want to see them Bill?
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 05:13 pm
Oh concerning running from a dog it is never never a good idea as a dog any dog is faster then you are likely to be to start with and by running you are locking down their prey hunting instincts.

A former girlfriend of mine had a Doberman who one day got loose and did a two blocks run chasing everyone off the street with me running behind her.

If she had not been playing she could had nail any of those fools running into their homes.

She got tired of the play and stop for me to catch up to her. Now I was thinking that someone is going to be calling the cops or come back out with a firearm so I needed to get this bad girl home.

She then looking at me spread her legs in the manner of a dog telling you that she is not going anywhere right now.

No leash or even collar to drag her home with so I needed to picked this 70 pounds dog up and carry her home over my shoulder.

She did have a surprise look on her face as she had not been picked since her puppy hood it would seem.


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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 05:18 pm
@Ticomaya,
Quote:
Gruesome photographs ... you want to see them Bill?


You just love gruesome photographs it would seem.

Oh for your information I happen to live in the only county in Florida that had placed a Pit Bull ban into placed and the results to date after ten years or so is that there are more Pill Bulls then ever.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 05:22 pm
@Ticomaya,
By the way if you get rid of all Pit Bulls by some magic and the magic is not going to be a legal ban what is the next breed you are going to be going after?
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Ragman
 
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Reply Wed 27 Apr, 2011 06:03 pm
Rolling Eyes
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Linkat
 
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Reply Thu 28 Apr, 2011 10:14 am
@BillRM,
Actually as I quote directly from you for the third time....

Quote:
Off hand I can not think of too many objects or animals safer to have in you household then a pit bull.


And I state yet again - I easily "off hand" gave two examples and if I gave any little thought could come with a multiple of examples of objects and/or animals that are safer in a household than pit bull - since there has been only one non-confirmed incident from almost 100 years ago of a cat possibly killing a person verses a multiple of examples of pit bulls killing people in a household.

And none of my schipperke breed (I could be wrong, but I haven't found any) and again a multiple of pit bull kills.

You personally haven't - but to the entire population - yes I've proven that there are at least 2 animals that are safer in a household than a pit bull.

And I'd agree for you personally that is probably the case, most likely because a cat has the good sense to rip you to shreds.
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 28 Apr, 2011 06:04 pm
@Linkat,
Quote:
multiple of examples of pit bulls killing people in a household


So once more seizing 5 millions plus family pets from homes and destroying them is needed or not needed in your opinion when we are talking about 12 to 17 deaths a year from not Pit Bull attacks but all repeat all dogs breeds attacks a year out of 300 millions.

And if you are for removing under force of law the millions and one things in the average homes that cause 12 to 17 deaths a year or more in this country of 300 millions?

The police will be carrying out your coffee pot and your hair dryer and one hell of a lot of other objects. Hell your bathtub will be going, as off hand I would bet hundreds of people drown with special note of poor children.

We need to post pictures of childen drown in bath tubs to get the logic to turn off and those awful tubs out of homes.
Linkat
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2011 10:51 am
@BillRM,
I did not say anything about seizing or killing family pets simply that there are other animals and/or objects that are safer in a household than a pit bull - at least according to any documented cases in the past 100 years or so.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2011 01:52 pm
I do not know how more to express the silliness of being concern about 12 to 17 fatal dogs attacks in a country of 300 millions people and 70 millions dogs but I will give it one more try.

The numbers of humans killing humans is over 15000 a year or to put if another way the chance of you being kill by a neighbor instead of the neighbor dog is 882 times greater.

Dogs with population of 70 millions are roughly 300 times safer then being around another human.

Let go worst case and give only 5 millions Pit Bulls full credit for 17 deaths a year and then being around a Pit Bull is still 14 times safer then another human.
okie
 
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Reply Fri 29 Apr, 2011 09:08 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
Let go worst case and give only 5 millions Pit Bulls full credit for 17 deaths a year and then being around a Pit Bull is still 14 times safer then another human.
And we could makePit Bulls even safer too by taking all of the guns away from them and their homes !!!!
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 22 May, 2011 07:36 pm
@Ticomaya,
Another amusing tale involving pit bulls.......
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/122396329.html

Discussion on FR
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2723572/posts
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Mon 23 May, 2011 06:38 am
@BillRM,
Might have something to do with the WAYS pit bulls kill people; arms, legs, and faces being torn off, that sort of thing.....
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