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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 09:13 am
Petraeus' 'ribbon creep'

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A uniform full of medals and decorations clashes with his message.
By Matthew DeBord
April 9, 2008
Gen. David H. Petraeus may be as impressive a military professional as the United States has developed in recent years, but he could use some strategic advice on how to manage his sartorial PR. Witness his congressional testimony on the state of the war in Iraq. There he sits in elaborate Army regalia, four stars glistening on each shoulder, nine rows of colorful ribbons on his left breast, and various other medallions, brooches and patches scattered across the rest of the available real estate on his uniform. He even wears his name tag, a lone and incongruous hunk of cheap plastic in a region of pristine gilt, just in case the politicians aren't sure who he is.

That's a lot of martial bling, especially for an officer who hadn't seen combat until five years ago. Unfortunately, brazen preening and "ribbon creep" among the Army's modern-day upper crust have trumped the time-honored military virtues of humility, duty and personal reserve.

Think about any of the generals you've seen in recent years -- Norman Schwarzkopf, Barry McCaffrey, Wesley Clark (all now retired) and others -- and the image you'll conjure no doubt includes a chest full of shimmering decorations. In Petraeus' case, most of them don't represent actual military action as much as they do the general's devotion to the institution of the U.S. Army and vice versa. According to an annotated photograph produced by the Times of London last year, the majority of ribbons on Petraeus' impressive "rack" were earned for various flavors of distinguished service. As brave as he may be and as meritorious in general, is all that ostentation the best way to present the situation in Iraq to an increasingly war-skeptical public?

Of course, Petraeus' goal is not just to make simple, soldierly arguments before Congress -- it is to dazzle, at least initially, with the blazing imagery of rank. What, after all, are mere Brooks Brothers suits on the members of Congress in the face of a fighting man's laurels? Some of the showiness can be attributed to regulations: The official uniform of the Army is to be worn in a very specific manner, and the brass have an obligation to live up to their billing by showing plenty of ... well, brass. On the other hand, if you're wearing four stars, you surely have some say when it comes to matters of peacockery.

Medals and decorations have a long history with a slightly cynical tinge. This goes back to their inception, during the Napoleonic era, when the strategic genius from Corsica discovered that baubles handed out to the combatants helped ensure loyalty and ferociousness. "With a handful of ribbons, I can conquer all of Europe," he said. In more contemporary times, decorations have suffered a fraught reputation among the rank and file: nice to get but awkward to display if the memories associated with them are of violence, loss and the ineptness of commanders. There have been isolated incidents of Iraq war veterans returning their medals, and, of course, Vietnam War vets were better acquainted with this kind of protest.

The greatest military leaders, in the age of organized national armies, have often conspicuously modified the official requirements of the uniform, even in the most public of settings. Ulysses S. Grant accepted Robert E. Lee's sword while outfitted in disheveled Union blue and muddy boots. Douglas MacArthur presided over the signing of the Japanese Instrument of Surrender on the deck of the battleship Missouri without donning so much as a necktie with his khakis. George Patton wasflamboyant, in his jodhpurs and riding boots, but he backed it up in battle after battle. His legend derived equally from brilliant tactics and an outrageous wardrobe.

Perhaps the best example, however -- and one that Petraeus and his cadre should look to for inspiration -- was set by two of the most politically savvy generals America has produced: Dwight Eisenhower and George Marshall. In photographs following World War II, with Ike fresh from rescuing Western civilization while Marshall was working to rebuild it, both men appear victorious, yet somber, cognizant of the challenges met and the challenges ahead. Eisenhower wears a single row of ribbons, Marshall three.

When you've saved the world and managed the lives and deaths of millions, it obviously compels a certain level of modesty about showcasing your accomplishments, however monumental. Apparently when you're trying to explain why your war-fighting achievements are "fragile" and why the conflict you're running in a hot, dusty faraway place might never be won, it does not.

Memo to Petraeus: When you're making the case for more patriotic gore, go easy on the glitter.


What's this guys problem? Sounds like a whiny bitch to me. Do any of you admire this kind of garbage?
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woiyo
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 09:25 am
Not quite sure what he is whining about.

Did he want the General to walk in wearing dirty fatigues? Maybe a bandage over one eye?
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fishin
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 10:04 am
I'd like to know what he considers to be "real military action". He seems to confine that to combat.

But it is fairly apparent that he knows little, if anything, about military dress regulations. McArthur wasn't required to wear a tie with the khaki uniform, for example. Uniform regulations allowed for khakis to be worn either with or without a tie. The same regulations require one be worn with the dress uniform. And Patreaus doesn't have much say about what the name tag is made of. Sorry DeBord doesn't like the plastic. Mabe he could have the military regulations changed to have them made of solid gold so that thatit would be more fitting for Congresional appearances.

The idea that military personnel shouldn't wear their awards/medals when appearing before Congress is a bit absurd. The Congress created the authorization for the awards. Why shouldn't they see the results of their work?

I guess he should have shown up before the Congress wearing sneakers, jeans and a T-shirt... not very military but maybe DeBord would be happy with how "humble" he would have appeared.
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engineer
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 10:14 am
Some medals are bogus (my entire base "earned" the humanitarian service medal for helping in the community after Hurricane Hugo and I got one for the first Gulf war even though I spent the entire war under the northern Atlantic), but what's the point. He didn't make them up and he's wearing them correctly. No big deal.
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Kitten with a Whip
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 10:24 am
I don't (generally) like conservative men because most of them are creeps.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 10:52 am
That article was a complete piece of crap. Where's the goddammed substance? What garbage.
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Kitten with a Whip
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 11:09 am
kickycan wrote:
That article was a complete piece of crap. Where's the goddammed substance? What garbage.


LOL Matthew DeBord is not a political writer.

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kickycan
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 11:11 am
A-HA! Good research, there, Whip!
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parados
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 11:12 am
Imagine the scathing review of Petraeus if he had shown up with a cheap glass of Merlot.

Of course only a "liberal" would be a wine snob, right McG? Admit it. You love MD20/20.
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fishin
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 11:15 am
parados wrote:
Imagine the scathing review of Petraeus if he had shown up with a cheap glass of Merlot.



lmao! Laughing
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Kitten with a Whip
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 11:16 am
More of Mr DeBord scathing commnetary:

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The car-sharing revolution
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Zipcar and Flexcar may have unleashed the innovation that finally chips away at individual auto ownership.
By Matthew DeBord
November 14, 2007
Zipcar and Flexcar, the biggest players in the car-sharing business, recently announced a merger with the goal of becoming profitable within a year and ultimately launching an IPO. The news was not exactly treated to a chorus on huzzahs in the business press. Zipcar and Flexcar -- based in the respective guilty-liberal/indie-culture capitals of Cambridge, Mass., and Seattle -- largely have been viewed as the college radio of the car industry: cool, influential, trendy, but ultimately unthreatening to the 24/7 freedom of personal car ownership.



This guy seems to be a mediocre free-lance writer who occasionally gets something published. He should be sending Mr. McGentrix and others of his ilk a check for the puiblicity.
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 11:17 am
"people" don't like liberals? liberals are not people?
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Kitten with a Whip
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 11:19 am
fishin wrote:
parados wrote:
Imagine the scathing review of Petraeus if he had shown up with a cheap glass of Merlot.



lmao! Laughing


LOL looks like Mr DeBard got quite a nice birthday present. A million dollars in free publicity. Google DeBord-Petraeus and this stupid little piece has become viral.

Happy Birthday,Matthew!
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2008 11:33 am
And those people who are pround of coca cola and coca cola lite are DREAMERS.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2008 11:45 am
The author quoted in the OP should learn up on why Petraeus had so much pinned on his coat. It is because the officer corps is very conformist today, and the standard view is that you wear what you are awarded in honor of the Army that awards you suchly. It has nothing to do with ego. Maybe Petraeus would rather not, but he is already pushing the envelope of nonconformity, and he would rather save fighting conformity for battles that are important, like winning in Iraq and keeping his soldiers alive.

The problem here is not liberal whining, it is ignorance of what is going on, and a lack of understanding of the relative importance of things..
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2008 11:57 am
Albert Edward Wiggarm has this view about

"Education enables a man to get along without the intelligence."
Ignorance is a commericial product--Rama
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2008 12:06 pm
The main reason they don't like liberals, liberals are truthful and don't like bigots liars and bullies.
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2008 03:35 pm
Edgar most of the citizens are not barbarians .
But none of US wish to dance according to the tunes..
By the word US I mean rational , critical sane, sensible family
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