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Scared of the dark.

 
 
Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 05:48 am
This may end up being about 2 things.
Jillians speech, and being afraid of the dark.

I have decided that I need to have her evaluated again on her speech.
This time it is not because of her annunciation.. but her lack of what appears to be over all ability and words. Example being what happens at night.

For several weeks she has been calling us back into her room after we shut the door for bed time.
Usually ( before this started happening that is) she would entertain herself if she was not really tired, but 90% of the time that door would close and she was out. 7:30-8:00 every night. No problems.

We have a bed time routine that.. the only variance is whether or not she wants to read a book or play with her ponies . She has 20 minutes either way with myself or her dad right before bed time to do one of those things.
Then she gets a small glass of water ( very small) and hugs and kisses, then it is off to bed.

She has been calling us into her room, and would point to something on the ground. We thought it meant that she wanted a toy in her bed. Most fo the times we will get what ever she is pointing at and put it in her bed.

Sometimes , she is literally pointing at nothing... a few nights crying while she did it.
No amount of questions could help me figure out why she was crying.
No amount of her talk would answer any questions either.

Her words were " i want that" or " no not that"
" That what?"
"That. That right there"

She does not use colors for a description of the 'toy' or anything else to help.

I heard from her play one day that one of her ponies was scared of its bed. THAT is what lead me to think she was scared of her room.

A little talking ( mostly on my part ) got some head shakes of agreement when I talked about being scared of her room, and of the dark.

She now has a night light. But it does not seem to help.

Since I do not know if there is exactly something that is scaring her, and I have to guess.. what do ya do for a kid who is scared at night?

It has crossed my mind to put all of her toys away at night and have a perfectly clean room so that there are no small shadows on her toys on the floor.
Close the closet ( i remember being scared of that myself)
Dont hang jackets on the wall.. That may be a problem though because we have a rack for her jacket and heavy sweater on the wall because we do not use her closet for clothes..

And play. Play play play play with ponies and dolls in her small house about being scared.

What else?
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Green Witch
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 06:14 am
My girlfriend's little girl, Esme, is going through a similar stage and her parents got her a what they call a Guardian Angel doll, but in this case it's not really an angel. It's this:

http://www.fao.com/assets/product_images/Large%20Images/866035_L.jpg





I know some kids might be afraid of this thing and you could get something prettier, but Esme picked this out and so it's her guardian. Esme was told that this doll was there to keep her safe from scary things in her bedroom or in the dark. I think her parents emphasized the bedroom thing because the fears seem to be specifically about that place and nighttime in particular. Esme does sometimes still call her parents at night, but my girlfriend also hears her talking to the doll and telling her that she (Esme) is going to sleep and the doll has to keep her eyes open to protect her. Unlike Jillain, Esme is very verbal and likes to make up stories- maybe that makes a difference. Although, Esme cannot always describe her fears exactly either, it's more of a feeling for her than a solid thing. It all started when she would tell her parents she was afraid to close her eyes, but she could never really explain why. "Just afraid", was always her response.

Where's dlowan? She probably has an a more educated answer to this problem.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 06:19 am
We have something like that too.

She has a 'wand'
A drumstick with a rattle on the end that she shakes at things that scare her.

She has an amethyst geode piece under her bed about 2 feet in length that she LOVES .

maybe a doll might work too..


I love that doll pictured! Love it, love it , love it.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 06:28 am
I do think something huggable helps.

I've talked about Beary -- he was one of several stuffed animals who sozlet liked fine but weren't really a big deal until she started being scared of the dark/ night-time. Then it developed (read: I told her) that he had special powers of protection. The powers had to be re-charged every now and then -- this involved me holding him and concentrating intently (and getting tired out afterwards) -- but he was (and is) a very, very good protector, and pretty much another member of the family.

One other thing I think I remember reading about somewhere is to not really operate on the assumption that yes, there are scary things out there. To be reassuring about it, "now, your room is very safe, there isn't anything scary here, but I know that sometimes it feels scary anyway, so IF you're feeling scared..." A fine line between validating feelings (can't go too far with "there's nothing scary!!!" when they are in fact scared) and not validating the idea that there is something to be scared of ("see, mom agreed that there's scary stuff in my room, so there really is scary stuff...")

Not totally sure about that part though.
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Green Witch
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 06:33 am
I like the idea that she has what I would call a "courage ritual" with the wand and drum. It make children (and people) feel empowered. Too bad it's not doing the trick.

I know the doll came from FAO Schwartz and is by Brian Froud. It's how I found the picture. It was on sale around Xmas because my girlfriend mentioned she got it for $25, which is about half the regular price. The weird thing with FAO is that sometimes you don't know an item is on sale until you put it in your cart.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 06:40 am
Ok I'll go here since no one else has....and before you all laugh at me, hear me out.

When I was little I was scared of my room too. And it wasn't because of any of my toys.

I fully remember being scared of things I couldn't see; ghosts. I always felt a presance. ( I still do now and then. )

Is is possible Jillian is experiencing something like that?

I had terrible nightmares, refused to leave my bed at night and if I had to I'd run to the bathroom and close the door fast. The hallway was particularily scary too.

I know you are a believer in spirits....can you cleanse her room?
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 06:45 am
sozobe wrote:

One other thing I think I remember reading about somewhere is to not really operate on the assumption that yes, there are scary things out there.


Ooo.. excellent point.
One I have already done.. meaning.. I have SAID.. dont worry about the things in your room.

Crap, crap and more crap. Now I have to work my way out of those words.

It is very true that she may not be scared of any ONE THING.. just uncomfortable in the dark, by herself..
Or just uncomfortable by herself when she is not tired.

Again.. the communication level is an issue when I can not really find out what is going on. I do have to assume and I have assumed that there was 'something'

I think I can fix that though.. Not sure how..
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 06:48 am
Bella Dea wrote:


I know you are a believer in spirits....can you cleanse her room?


Ok..
to answer this without sounding like a crazy person..

( forgive the religious tone..)

There is nothing in her room.
There used to be 'something' that would make things move. Slam her closet door, or topple over toys high on shelves that has moved on.

This was several months ago , before the fear set in.
I do not know if the two were related or not..

It has crossed my mind that it was the same spirit/energy/thing... that dumped out her dresser when she was a baby and put the folded clothes in piles on her floor around her dresser. ( remember that?)

When there is something there, I do cleanse if necessary..but not always.

Lately, that has not been the issue.

This does not mean she is not picking up on things that I may not see or feel. Kids are really sensative to those kinds of things. More then I can understand.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 06:54 am
I'd suggest that you sit in her room one night and just listen/observe.

Kids are scared of stuff that adults know are harmless. Creaking boards, rustling leaves, the odd branch hitting an outside wall, light from outside making a pattern on the floor, etc.

Plus, maybe she really saw something she's scared of, like a bug or a mouse.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 07:30 am
7 WAYS TO HELP YOUR CHILD HANDLE FEAR
Shewolf, sounds like you are doing everything right according to this doctor's advice. ---BBB

7 WAYS TO HELP YOUR CHILD HANDLE FEAR
Ask Dr. Sears.com

Helping children overcome fears not only eases their anxieties, it also provides an opportunity to build the parent-child relationship. As you and your child work through fears together, he learns to regard you as a valuable source of support.

1. Understand why children are afraid

Children do not think like adults. Most of the world is unknown to the child; and children, like adults, fear the unknown. The preschool child cannot reason through each new experience and decide what's okay and what's threatening. As if the real world were not scary enough, the ability to form mental images, which develops from two to four years, opens the world of magical thinking with its consequent fearful fantasies . Two-to-four-year-old children are able to recreate people, animals, and things, which they are exposed to in real life mentally, and these mental images may be scarier than the real thing. The cute daytime dinosaur may reappear in fantasy form as a monster at night, producing the sleep disturbances so common at this age.

The ability to imagine monsters without the ability to reason them away as imaginary creatures results in a developmental stage where little persons are likely to have big fears. Fears vary from child to child. One child's fear is another's fascination. Some children love to play with the vacuum cleaner. Other kids regard it as a noisy monster that eats things. The school-age child becomes more afraid of changes in relationships, danger, and health issues (e.g., being hit by a car, not being able to breathe, divorce of parents, or death). Children become fearful at different ages, at different intensities, and about different things.

In our family, once we started practicing sleep-sharing sixteen years ago, we didn't have monsters in the bedroom, but Hayden and Erin did go through a stage when they were scared of the dark . When Matthew did not develop this fear, we wondered why. When it finally did show up, he was old enough to understand an explanation?-we told him he was scared because his imagination was growing. He liked being able to understand his fear, and it seems to us that he grew out of it quickly.

Fear is one of the earliest emotions, and with a little help from caregivers, the child can turn this unpleasant feeling into an opportunity for emotional growth. Learning to deal with fears is one of the child's earliest lessons in dealing with emotions and using outside help. Understand and support your child during these times, and the closeness between you will grow.

2. Give a fearless message

First, what not to do. Don't give your child the message that it's wrong to be scared. To a growing child, this translates into "something's wrong with me." Avoid putdowns like: "Don't be afraid," "Stop being a baby," "Big boys (or girls) don't get scared." These don't put out the fears they only drive them underground. Now the child is not only afraid of the dark, but he's also afraid to tell anybody about his fear, or seek help with handling it. What began as a normal childhood problem is now chipping away at his ability to trust others. Without reinforcing your child's fears, empathize with them: "When I was a child I was afraid of a dark bedroom, too." Acknowledge your child's fears in order to help her work through them. Strike a balance. Don't ignore the fears, but don't get over-involved in them either, or your child will play up the fear to get your attention.

When responding to children's fears, give them two messages: It's all right to be afraid; and it's good to share your fears and ask for help. Reassure your child that "Mom and dad (or trusted adult) will keep you safe." Remember not to put your child down by saying: "There's nothing to be afraid of" or "That's silly." Never use or create fears to discipline your child: "The boogie man will get you if you get out of bed" or "God will punish you if you talk back."

3. Model being unfearful

Helping your child handle fears is much easier if you are closely connected with your child. Your child regards you as a test pilot. If something or someone is safe for you, then it is safe for the child. Stranger anxiety is common between one and two years. Help your child overcome this fear by mirroring to the child that this new person is okay. Many children become fearful of insects because they see an adult freak out when a June bug buzzes by. Same for lightning and thunder. Try singing "My Favorite Things" during a storm to help you stay calm. To handle fear of doctors , prior to your visit, let your child explore a toy doctor's kit. Play doctor and go through a pretend examination so your child knows what to expect. Let the child play doctor with his pet, doll, or stuffed animal.

4. Always take your child's fear of caregivers seriously

Normally, familiarity lessens fear. If your child's fear at being left with a particular caregiver, even a relative, is getting more intense, change caregivers. Even if foul play seems unlikely, give your child the benefit of the doubt.

5. Ease bedtime fears

Nighttime is scary time for little people. Fear of the dark and of separation from parents is a double fear that keeps many children awake. Put on a night-light. Parent your child off to sleep with a soothing story, massage, or song. Leave relaxing tapes playing for an hour or so after bedtime. Young children need these helpers because they cannot use their minds to overcome their fears. The child over four can be helped to work through the fear of darkness. Ask him to tell you what "dark" means to him. Encourage the child to draw the fear: "Draw what your dark room feels like and looks like." If you get a black sheet of paper with an orange monster under the bed, you've pinpointed the fear.

The principle of gradually increasing exposure helps the child overcome fear of the dark. Play dark tag, beginning with the lights on in a room that preferably has a dimmer switch so that you can gradually dim the lights. Play hide-and-seek at dusk, and let the game extend into the darkness. Play follow the leader as you weave around the yard at night on an exploring expedition. Initially, hold your child's hand as you explore together. Give your child his own flashlight to keep next to his bed so that he can turn it on to shed light onto suspicious piles of clothing that turn into "a bear" when there's no light. Sometimes just knowing that he has the power to change the darkness into light is enough to quell the fear. Or just leave a light on his room; it won't interfere with his ability to sleep. He'll start turning it off himself when he's older.

6. Chase "monsters" out of bedrooms

"Daddy there's a monster in my room." Is this a real fear or another trick for prolonging bedtime? The empathetic parent treats the child's concern as real. Here's how to get the child out of the fearful state and ease him into a sleeping one. Let the child describe the monster and tell you exactly where it is. Walk around the room together, letting the child share his worries. Realize that fearing monsters is a developmental stage in which the monster stands in for a frightening world. Childish fears being what they are - illogical - an explanation may not work. A more imaginative response is called for: "I'm the dad in this house and I don't allow monsters in here. He'll have to leave." Then you step into the closet and have a brief talk with the monster.

Do these kinds of responses mean that you have "caved in" to childish behavior? No, they don't. They mean you understand what that dark and shadowy room looks like to your child; your recognizing his reality by playing along shows him a way of mastering his fears. How else can a parent confront a pretend monster, if not by pretending a little?

As your child grows older, the problem with joining in on fictitious fears is that you reinforce the idea that monsters really do exist. We don't believe in "chasing the monster away" games once children can understand the difference between real and pretend. Tell your child matter-of-factly: "Monsters are only on drawings or TV. They aren't real. And even if they were real, Daddy wouldn't let them get in our house." Draw a monster picture and show your three-year-old the difference between real and imaginary. ("Monsters are pretend. Lions are real and Daddy won't let any lions in here either.") Since we share sleep with our children, we haven't had this monster-in-the-bedroom problem ourselves. Once our kids are secure enough at night to graduate from our bedroom, they are past the age of being tricked by their imagination. Even if your child sleeps in his own room, a lovely part of his bedtime ritual could be Mom or Dad lying down with him as he falls off to sleep, until he is old enough to enjoy going to sleep on his own.

Try helping your child imagine a substitute scene: "When you dream about anything scary, imagine a train at the end of your bed. Whenever you're afraid you can hop on the train, and mommy and daddy will be right there in the train with you. You ride around in the train for a little while with mommy and daddy, and then the train comes back and stops at the end of your bed. You get off, and you crawl back into bed, and by that time you'll forget the scare." Offering substitute make-believe works for the sensitive child who feels threatened at any suggestion that the monsters aren't real and that therefore you think he's dumb for even thinking about monsters. The best way to get rid of nighttime fears is to prevent them by practicing a style of nighttime parenting that helps the child feel that sleep is a pleasant state to enter and a fearless state to remain in.

7. Get rid of fearful characters

Fear of fantasy characters is one of the most common fears in the preschool child. If your child's favorite imaginary characters are not keeping him awake at night, bothering him at school, or making him a generally fearful person, join in the fun, and let your child enjoy the fantasies while they last. If they are interfering with your child's emotional development, help your child work through what is imaginary and what is real. The child under six has difficulty separating make-believe from reality.

Banish scary characters from your child's environment. Turn off scary TV shows and videos. Even better, limit TV and videos for preschoolers to very selective viewing. Beware of films and cartoons that were created for older children and adults. Help your child discern the difference between real and imaginary characters. Talk about how cartoons and movies are made. Use puppets to put on an act. ("See, these aren't real; they only talk with your voice or move if you pull the string.")

Be careful not to transfer your own fears to your child. For example, your toddler is climbing up on the counter. If you immediately give him the fear message, "You might fall!" or "That's dangerous!" he probably will fall. Fear can actually make risk situations more dangerous. It's best to calmly walk over to the child and assist him.
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Linkat
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2008 11:00 am
I've done two things. I used a spray that was a monster spray - it would keep monster away because they hated the smell. I also told my girls that monsters are afraid of cats, that is why we have two cats. The cats scare away the monsters - of course that only works if you have cats.

You could use these items and say they help keep everything safe if she isn't scared of monsters, but afraid in general.

This is funny because I used this saying beforeĀ…."I'm the dad in this house and I don't allow monsters in here. He'll have to leave." Not the dad part of course, but I would tell my daughters that monsters are not allowed in the house.
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