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Dagmaraka goes Dutch

 
 
roger
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 02:05 pm
@dagmaraka,
Kayak. It was a kayak. Learn the Eskimo roll. I suggest shallow water and appropriate attire.
dagmaraka
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 04:01 pm
@roger,
BRUXELLES!!!

I'm in love.

It was like a blind date that you have to drag yourself to and then end up having the most amazing sex... or something. Walked about at night in a rain, taking one million pictures.
People here are also nice, they actually smile, cars stop and let you cross, and i got a chocolate with my postcards. More later, but I'll be back in Brussels as often as I can, that's for sure.
littlek
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 04:13 pm
@dagmaraka,
It is supposed to be great, I'm glad you're finding it so.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 04:53 pm
@dagmaraka,
Now I'm sorry I didn't ask for a postcard. (I think of them and the mailing from Eurp to US as fair expensive.) Next time...

I've an arch. historian pal that loves Belgium.. and now I have a context for it, your walking in the night rain taking photos and all. I'll be avid to see your photos, Dag.
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roger
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 05:51 pm
@dagmaraka,
Cars stop and let you cross? Wow. I'm remembering the strategy I developed in Germany (late '60s). Cross your fingers, put your head down and make absolutely no eye contact. Wander across like you're semi-comatose, and hope for the best.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 06:20 pm
@roger,
Whenever I go to Italy (pause for wishes), for the first few days I tag along with italians crossing a street in, say, Rome - scooting along behind them. After a day or two I'm italian myself.

Never dart. The drivers count on you to continue whatever your behavior is.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 06:33 pm
@ossobuco,
Well, I mean, never stop start dart as a short term pedestrian visitor. Watch and learn.
Me, I think they're pretty good drivers, a lot of the time.
roger
 
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Reply Wed 15 Oct, 2008 06:38 pm
@ossobuco,
Yeah, well Kamakazi pilots were pretty good too, if you allow for relatively little experience.
dagmaraka
 
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Reply Sat 18 Oct, 2008 07:15 pm
@roger,
http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v341/153/5/697154364/n697154364_1509456_2790.jpg

The square of the Martyrs. I recognized it from my parents' photographs from 1969, when they lived in Brussels for 3 or 4 months.

http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v341/153/5/697154364/n697154364_1509457_3098.jpg

http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v341/153/5/697154364/n697154364_1509458_3398.jpg

EU buildings at the end of Nieuwstraat...the New Street.
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Sat 18 Oct, 2008 07:21 pm
http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v341/153/5/697154364/n697154364_1509459_3754.jpg

http://photos-g.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v341/153/5/697154364/n697154364_1509510_1953.jpg
La Bourse, St. Nicolas church, and the Parliament in the back

http://photos-e.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v341/153/5/697154364/n697154364_1509580_7916.jpg
the Grand Place in the rain
dagmaraka
 
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Reply Sat 18 Oct, 2008 07:23 pm
http://photos-f.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v341/153/5/697154364/n697154364_1509581_8223.jpg
The Parliament

http://photos-g.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v341/153/5/697154364/n697154364_1509582_8549.jpg
Little green men on the rooftops

http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v341/153/5/697154364/n697154364_1509584_9186.jpg
The EU Commission...my main man, the commissioner for education, youth, culture, and training (and a Slovak) sits there.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 18 Oct, 2008 07:31 pm
@roger,
I don't know about the kamikaze, Roger, are you saying european drivers are trying to kill other cars and the people in them? I did watch drivers in italy for an extensive time. I remember you lived in Germany. Just because people in some italian cities don't do our lane thing with the usual 15 - 25 mph over speed limit doesn't mean, perforce, ineptness. I see them as pretty attuned and not usually blotto drunk, etc., as in some of our places. Indeed, the effort is Not to hit another car/pedestrian and still to survive oneself.

And since at least around older cities people aren't driving behemoths, they tend to have more facility with maneuvering that we do, say, in the southwest US.

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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Sat 18 Oct, 2008 07:36 pm
http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v341/153/5/697154364/n697154364_1509384_4259.jpg

rain rain rain
ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 18 Oct, 2008 07:40 pm
@dagmaraka,
Ooooh, love the night photos. Also happy re the day photos..
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 19 Oct, 2008 12:58 am
@dagmaraka,
Brussels is really a very nice place (and the Belgians are nice as well ... if you don't talk about domestic politics with them), and your phtos give an excellent idea of that place. Thanks.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 10 Nov, 2008 12:12 pm
Speaking about Belgium ... how good is your Dutch, dag?


De Morgen.be
http://i36.tinypic.com/2641ik7.jpg
I'm sure, no drunken brown bears are something you have to fear ... but perhaps Sinterklaas and de Zwarte Piet during the next couple of weeks Wink

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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jan, 2009 09:54 am
Had another look at those pictures of Brussels.

Joe(Makes me want to gosee)Nation
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jan, 2009 10:22 am
@roger,
roger wrote:

Cars stop and let you cross? Wow. I'm remembering the strategy I developed in Germany (late '60s). Cross your fingers, put your head down and make absolutely no eye contact.

Germany, really?

I always think the Germans are the best behaved people in traffic in all of Europe. Well, I've never been in Norway and the like, but - in Germany, pedestrians actually stop at the red light before crossing! I mean, all of them!

It always takes me about a dozen stern and angry looks from older Germans before I'm acclimitized properly and start behaving like them when I'm there...

Absolutely worst traffic navigation anywhere in Europe, for sure: Tirana, Albania, at least back in '99. If you thought Italy was chaotic, you should head across the Adriatic and experience real and total anarchy.
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jan, 2009 10:26 am
@dagmaraka,
dagmaraka wrote:
People here are also nice, they actually smile, cars stop and let you cross

Ah yes, Belgians. They are very friendly and polite. Um, compared to the Dutch. Compared to the Dutch they're friendly and polite and, you know ... soft-spoken, appropriately dressed ... it's like ... they're civilized.
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jan, 2009 01:15 pm
ah yes, going in february again. come see joe, before i blow this joint!

actually, the purpose that i wanted the netherlands to serve has been served. it was intended as a purgatory before i go to heaven or hell (slovakia) FOREVER (which in my head sounded like dying).
now i am quite accustomed to europe again and am even mildly excited about moving back home. so help me Old Goat.
 

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