hanno wrote:Cold dead hands the first thing that came to mind? Then you're not viewing it in context. No one killed him to take his gun - he did his thing till the end - the day is his.
I despise this playground-rules crap - you'll call weakness weakness, in the sense that he's dead and that's bad for him, but someone wants to hold onto a little instrument of self defense and it's out of order.
Oh lighten up.
Anyone with any sense of proportion would see the "cold, dead, hands" bellow in that speech as intrinsically ironic and over the top......
What's "doing his thing till the end" got to do with anything? It was a dumb speech bound to get laughs at the time, and obviously his hands were gonna end up cold and dead at some point, just like yours and mine.
Nobody ever thought he was gonna die to defend his guns, and that was one of the things that made the phrase so ridiculous.
Wherever are you getting this nonsense:
"you'll call weakness weakness, in the sense that he's dead and that's bad for him"
Whoever called his dying "weakness"?
What on earth are you on about?
As for whether being dead is "bad for him" (a comment I cannot make any sense of at all in this context), I suppose a universal human fate can be regarded as bad, if one fears death greatly, but I see no reason to personalise this to Heston, especially as he died after a long life, which would seem pretty lucky given the fate awaiting many of us.
Perhaps you just can't appreciate black humour?
BTW, I would have found the "cold dead hands" thing just as ridiculous if I were opposed to gun laws. It was just plain laughable.
I was interested in hearing more about Heston than his gun nut stuff, btw.
You seem very fond of him, got anything interesting to say?