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Conservatives More Liberal Givers

 
 
Reply Thu 27 Mar, 2008 07:32 am
Conservatives More Liberal Givers
By George Will

WASHINGTON -- Residents of Austin, Texas, home of the state's government and flagship university, have very refined social consciences, if they do say so themselves, and they do say so, speaking via bumper stickers. Don R. Willett, a justice of the state Supreme Court, has commuted behind bumpers proclaiming "Better a Bleeding Heart Than None at All," "Practice Random Acts of Kindness and Senseless Beauty," "The Moral High Ground Is Built on Compassion," "Arms Are For Hugging," "Will Work (When the Jobs Come Back From India)," "Jesus Is a Liberal," "God Wants Spiritual Fruits, Not Religious Nuts," "The Road to Hell Is Paved With Republicans," "Republicans Are People Too -- Mean, Selfish, Greedy People" and so on. But Willett thinks Austin subverts a stereotype: "The belief that liberals care more about the poor may scratch a partisan or ideological itch, but the facts are hostile witnesses."

Sixteen months ago, Arthur C. Brooks, a professor at Syracuse University, published "Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism." The surprise is that liberals are markedly less charitable than conservatives.

If many conservatives are liberals who have been mugged by reality, Brooks, a registered independent, is, as a reviewer of his book said, a social scientist who has been mugged by data. They include these findings:

-- Although liberal families' incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household ($1,600 per year vs. $1,227).

-- Conservatives also donate more time and give more blood.

-- Residents of the states that voted for John Kerry in 2004 gave smaller percentages of their incomes to charity than did residents of states that voted for George Bush.

-- Bush carried 24 of the 25 states where charitable giving was above average.

-- In the 10 reddest states, in which Bush got more than 60 percent majorities, the average percentage of personal income donated to charity was 3.5. Residents of the bluest states, which gave Bush less than 40 percent, donated just 1.9 percent.

-- People who reject the idea that "government has a responsibility to reduce income inequality" give an average of four times more than people who accept that proposition.

Brooks demonstrates a correlation between charitable behavior and "the values that lie beneath" liberal and conservative labels. Two influences on charitable behavior are religion and attitudes about the proper role of government.

The single biggest predictor of someone's altruism, Willett says, is religion. It increasingly correlates with conservative political affiliations because, as Brooks' book says, "the percentage of self-described Democrats who say they have 'no religion' has more than quadrupled since the early 1970s." America is largely divided between religious givers and secular nongivers, and the former are disproportionately conservative. One demonstration that religion is a strong determinant of charitable behavior is that the least charitable cohort is a relatively small one -- secular conservatives.

Reviewing Brooks' book in the Texas Review of Law & Politics, Justice Willett notes that Austin -- it voted 56 percent for Kerry while he was getting just 38 percent statewide -- is ranked by The Chronicle of Philanthropy as 48th out of America's 50 largest cities in per capita charitable giving. Brooks' data about disparities between liberals' and conservatives' charitable giving fit these facts: Democrats represent a majority of the wealthiest congressional districts, and half of America's richest households live in states where both senators are Democrats.

While conservatives tend to regard giving as a personal rather than governmental responsibility, some liberals consider private charity a retrograde phenomenon -- a poor palliative for an inadequate welfare state, and a distraction from achieving adequacy by force, by increasing taxes. Ralph Nader, running for president in 2000, said: "A society that has more justice is a society that needs less charity." Brooks, however, warns: "If support for a policy that does not exist ... substitutes for private charity, the needy are left worse off than before. It is one of the bitterest ironies of liberal politics today that political opinions are apparently taking the place of help for others."

In 2000, brows were furrowed in perplexity because Vice President Al Gore's charitable contributions, as a percentage of his income, were below the national average: He gave 0.2 percent of his family income, one-seventh of the average for donating households. But Gore "gave at the office." By using public office to give other peoples' money to government programs, he was being charitable, as liberals increasingly, and conveniently, understand that word.
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engineer
 
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Reply Thu 27 Mar, 2008 09:16 am
Did the study include church donations as "charitable giving?" Certainly some of money given to churches should count as such, but the portion used to support salaries and facilities are more like business expenses. This would be hard to measure at my church since we also use facilities to charitable purposes like housing the homeless. Still, I think if we removed all the money that went to salaries, facilities, on-going expenses and religious outreach efforts, less than 20%, possibly less than 10% would be considered charitable giving.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 27 Mar, 2008 09:19 am
I do not know if they counted tithing or not.
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parados
 
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Reply Thu 27 Mar, 2008 10:24 am
An interesting but probably meaningless study.

If you ask people if they give money and then record their response are you recording what they really give or what they feel they should have gave or perhaps you are really recording how willing they are to toot their own horn about how "compassionate" they are.

Without the methodology there is no way to confirm if this study is valid or not. I find it interesting that George Will is willing to promote it without asking those questions.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 27 Mar, 2008 11:42 am
Yeah, he's just a hack journalist anyways, right?
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Thu 27 Mar, 2008 11:57 am
Sigh. There it is again, reducing the world into a liberal vs. conservative vision. As if nothing else existed. This 'division' itself is a result of deeper social processes, as is civic activism or lethargy. Putnam's research shows the same results, but has a far more thorough analysis. Here's an article about the study (not the study itself):

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/the_downside_of_diversity/?page=1
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Thu 27 Mar, 2008 12:12 pm
And here's another study with much the same conclusion as in the original post.

BUT, if you actually read it, you'll see that the causes are not in the political arena - as in "i give more because i'm a conservative".... reasons are in various social and cultural issues, that ultimately also tend to decide whether i will become a conservative or a liberal. in that sense it's definitely related, but that is not a sufficient scientific study (more of a propaganda).

problem 1: yes, these studies usually do include charity going to churches (which is not a civic arena)

problem 2: it does not take into accout other acts of civic activism (in fact simple giving of money is not a civic act, it's dissolving oneself of responsibility to contribute directly with action), volunteerism, etc.

So, my conclusion is that this is at best a partial picture and concluding that "conservatives give more", while accurate, is like saying that American flag is white (yes it is. but it's also red and blue...).

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talk72000
 
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Reply Thu 27 Mar, 2008 09:10 pm
Conservatives usually cheat ordinary folks in the market place thru their businesses and give back a small portion of the loot for appearances only. Liberals usually have less in their pockets so they give probably proportionately more.
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Thu 27 Mar, 2008 10:02 pm
well, if we MUST go by political denomination, then no. Liberals do not give proportionally more. They give less, even proportionally.

But like I said, the political denomination is not the CAUSE. It is the RESULT of the same or similar social drives that drive charitable giving or social activism... They correlate, but do not cause each other. And, the picture is incomplete. Giving is but a part of civic life.
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talk72000
 
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Reply Fri 28 Mar, 2008 05:42 am
Proportionately by their disposable income.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Fri 28 Mar, 2008 05:57 am
talk72000 wrote:
Conservatives usually cheat ordinary folks in the market place thru their businesses and give back a small portion of the loot for appearances only. Liberals usually have less in their pockets so they give probably proportionately more.


the above is possibly the DUMBEST thing ever posted on A2K!
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talk72000
 
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Reply Fri 28 Mar, 2008 11:32 pm
Don't forget those who donate to charities get tax deductions so they make the tax payer pay for they public piety.
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nappyheadedhohoho
 
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Reply Sat 29 Mar, 2008 12:37 am
The Economist had an article yesterday citing some author (can't remember who at the moment) who has done a study confirming that conservatives are also happier than liberals.

Laughing
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talk72000
 
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Reply Sat 29 Mar, 2008 02:19 am
They must be happy with George W. Bush. Laughing
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woiyo
 
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Reply Sat 29 Mar, 2008 06:01 am
talk72000 wrote:
Don't forget those who donate to charities get tax deductions so they make the tax payer pay for they public piety.


Once again, you make another dumb comment.

The more people donate to public charity, the less government support is needed. That is why you get the deduction!
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