dadpad
 
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Reply Wed 9 Apr, 2008 05:08 am
Brandon9000 wrote:


It looks interesting, but if such a large revolution is in the offing, why do we hear nothing about it?


You are hearing about it, or at least the precursors. The wholesale and massive changes that need to take place within the economy as a whole will happen incrementally.

What you need to realise is that for a real alternative to oil to present itself there needs to be changes to transport which means researching new or modified propulsion systems, research and acceptance of new agricultural systems, research into processing industry to proceess the fuels. etc etc etc.

Its a chicken and egg situation. No - one will put the time and money into motor vehicals unless there is a fuel system and no-one will put the time into a fuel processing system unless there is a raw product to work with and no-one will plant the enormouse amounts of land required with crops unless there is a real prospect of a transport system that can use the fuel.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Wed 9 Apr, 2008 05:25 am
http://www.environmental-expert.com/files/11226/events/2675/bioenergylogo150.gif

Event Type: Conference/Seminar
Date: May 27-29, 2008
Venue: Elmia
Location: Jönköping, Sweden

Organised biennially the main aim of World Bioenergy is to fast-track the commercial implementation of waste-to-energy and bioenergy technologies and solutions. This major global get-together is based on the unique "Taking you from Know-How to Show-How" concept, sharing best practice by combining conference sessions, fieldtrips and tradeshow into one comprehensive event.

The purpose of the event is to promote the commercial implementation of bioenergy technologies and solutions. By attending World Bioenergy, delegates not only expand their own Know-How horizons but also their Know-Who networks.

world bioenergy conference

Environmental expert

Articals and case studies dealng with green energy
8699 articals and case studies in alphabetical order.

Now you are really hearing about it.
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Reply Wed 9 Apr, 2008 05:35 am
A report by DAve Pimentel was featured in SLATE. Hes been studying synfuels for 30 years and hes a massive supporter of retorting the oil shale reserves which are over 6 Trillion barrels world wide and almost 3 trillion in the US alone
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dadpad
 
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Reply Wed 9 Apr, 2008 06:03 am
FM as the artical in Slate says, It depends who you ask.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 9 Apr, 2008 08:48 am
The article by Pimentel is rather quantitative and really has no dog in the fight other than to consider an energy balance.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Thu 10 Apr, 2008 01:24 am
heres a long night in front of the for for those so inclined.


S. Phillips, A. Aden, J. Jechura, D. Dayton and T. Eggeman (2007). Thermochemical Ethanol via Indirect Gasification and Mixed Alcohol Synthesis of Lignocellulosic Biomass. National Renewable Energy Laboratory. Prepared under Task No. BB07.3710. Technical Report NREL/TP-510-41168, 132pp. April 2007.

http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy07osti/41168.pdf accessed 8th April 2008

Ethanol for under $1.00/gal. This contact was sent to me by a friend who would know whats real or otherwise
http://www.coskata.com/

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Coskata's process can produce up to 7.7 times more energy than what is used in making the ethanol. Corn-derived ethanol produces approximately 1.3 times the energy required (Argonne National Laboratory).
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