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Corrupt Bush Justice Dept Goes after Eliot Spitzer

 
 
woiyo
 
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Reply Tue 11 Mar, 2008 08:04 am
18 USCS @ 2421 (1994) @ 2421.
*** THIS SECTION IS CURRENT THROUGH P.L. 103-321, APPROVED
8/26/94 ***
TITLE 18. CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE PART I. CRIMES
CHAPTER 117. TRANSPORTATION FOR ILLEGAL SEXUAL ACTIVITY AND
RELATED CRIMES @ 2421.

Transportation generally
Whoever knowingly transports any individual in interstate or
foreign commerce, or in any Territory or Possession of the United
States, with intent that such individual engage in prostitution,
or in any sexual activity for which any person can be charged
with a criminal offense, shall be fined under this title or
imprisoned not more than five years, or both
HISTORY; ANCILLARY LAWS AND DIRECTIVES PRIOR LAW AND REVISION:

1948 Act
This section is based on Act June 25, 1910, ch 395, @@ 1, 2,
5, 8, 36 Stat. 825--827 (former 18 U.S.C. @@ 397, 398, 401, and
404).

AMENDMENTS: 1949. Act May 24, 1949, substituted "induce" for
"induct" in the second paragraph.
1986. Act Nov. 7, 1986, substituted this section for one
which read: "Whoever knowingly transports in interstate or
foreign commerce, or in the District of Columbia or in any
Territory or Possession of the United States, any woman or girl
for the purpose of prostitution or debauchery, or for any other
any woman or girl for the purpose of prostitution or debauchery,
or for any other immoral purpose, or with the intent and purpose
to induce, entice, or compel such woman or girl to become a
prostitute or to give herself up to debauchery, or to engage in
any other immoral practice; or "Whoever knowingly procures or
obtains any ticket or tickets, or any form of transportation or
evidence of the right thereto, to be used by any woman or girl
in interstate or foreign commerce, or in the District of Columbia
or any Territory or Possession of the United States, in going to
any place for the purpose of prostitution or debauchery, or for
any other immoral purpose, or with the intent or purpose on the
part of such person to induce, entice, or compel her to give
herself up to the practice of prostitution, or to give herself up
todebauchery, or any other immoral practice, whereby any such
woman or girl shall be transported in interstate or foreign
commerce, or in the District of Columbia or any Territory or
Possession of the United States-- "Shall be fined not more
than $ 5,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.".


http://wise.fau.edu/~tunick/courses/conlaw/mann.html

You can not even post the Act accurately. Rolling Eyes
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Tue 11 Mar, 2008 08:14 am
Any moron can cut and paste statutes.

If the Justice Department started prosecuting johns who hire online call girls, they would have time for nothing else.

Again,kindly post a link to a successful (or even unsuccessful prosecution) under the Mann act of a john who contracted the services of an online escort consensually and arranged to have her meet him "across state lines." This is silliness and a waste of law enforcement resources.

OTOH Spitzer has a huge political problem. It's the hypocrisy, stupid.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Tue 11 Mar, 2008 08:16 am
woiyo wrote:
Technically, his actions DO violate the Mann Act and you know this to be true.

If the Justice Department feels like prosecuting him on this act is irrelevant to me. He admitted he violated his public trust and should resign immediately. He violated his oath of office and admitted breaking the law.

You fell compelled to defend his actions? Then why should you care about what any politician does. You are the party to this hypocracy [sic]we used to call the US Government.

As a result, that makes you a traitor to the Constitution in my opinion.

I am tired of arguing this point with apologists and defenders of "liberalism".
We are supposed to be a Nation of Laws. Yet, you ignore the Law when it effects you and yours.

You are part of the problem.


If every violation of the US Code was prosecuted, we would all be indicted for something.


Please post a link to your demand that David Vitter should resign.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Tue 11 Mar, 2008 08:22 am
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 11 Mar, 2008 08:29 am
Quote:
Any moron can cut and paste statutes.
.


Lets sit back and let that statement fully sink in.


Please resign Elliot, show the rest of the political world that youre capable of accepting and deling with consequences of stupid personal acts.
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parados
 
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Reply Tue 11 Mar, 2008 08:30 am
woiyo wrote:


HERE COME THE APOLOGISTS.

Get your facts straight. He MAILED the "Emperors Club" the fee AND had her transported from NY to Washington DC.

Do you think he MAILED the money from DC the same night the hooker showed up? The US mail doesn't work that way. He was only in DC for the night which means he probably made the arrangments while in NY.

Getting the facts straight is hardly being an apologist. Maybe you should check the facts before you accuse others of not having facts.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 11 Mar, 2008 08:31 am
There is no conspiracy here, despite the many protestations by some...



Story continues at link
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woiyo
 
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Reply Tue 11 Mar, 2008 08:32 am
farmerman wrote:
Quote:
Any moron can cut and paste statutes.
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Lets sit back and let that statement fully sink in.


Please resign Elliot, show the rest of the political world that youre capable of accepting and deling with consequences of stupid personal acts.


Agree Farmer, That would be the honorable thing to do.

(regardless of the statements by the apologists)
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woiyo
 
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Reply Tue 11 Mar, 2008 08:35 am
parados wrote:
woiyo wrote:


HERE COME THE APOLOGISTS.

Get your facts straight. He MAILED the "Emperors Club" the fee AND had her transported from NY to Washington DC.

Do you think he MAILED the money from DC the same night the hooker showed up? The US mail doesn't work that way. He was only in DC for the night which means he probably made the arrangments while in NY.

Getting the facts straight is hardly being an apologist. Maybe you should check the facts before you accuse others of not having facts.
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parados
 
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Reply Tue 11 Mar, 2008 08:39 am
Any man that packs up his wife and the sex toys and heads to another state on vacation is guilty of violating the Mann act.

Hey, does that mean that every DC politician that paid for his wife's travel to DC should resign? If he had sex with her after paying for her travel, I guess it does.

(The above is in no way intended to "apologize" for what Spitzer did. It's just a comment on how vague "debauchery" is in the Mann act. Spitzer appeared to violate it by paying for a prostitute to cross state lines.)
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Tue 11 Mar, 2008 08:39 am
parados wrote:
Any man that packs up his wife and the sex toys and heads to another state on vacation is guilty of violating the Mann act.


Exactly! (well, wife might be problematic but certainly his girlfriend)

A marine biologist developed a race of genetically engineered dolphins that could live forever if they were fed a steady diet of young seagulls. One day, his supply of the birds ran out, so he had to go out and trap some more. The best place to find them was in the state next to his, so he drove there, trapped quite a few, and drove his truck back towards his lab. As soon as he crossed into his own state a state trooper pulled him over. The biologist asked the trooper what was wrong... he had been traveling under the speed limit.

The trooper responded, "mister, your under arrest for transporting young gulls across state line for immortal porpoises."
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 11 Mar, 2008 08:43 am
Spitzer is part of the Democratic culture of corruption.

I don't feel any sympathy for him - he knew what he was doing.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Tue 11 Mar, 2008 08:48 am
H2O_MAN wrote:
Spitzer is part of the Democratic culture of corruption.

I don't feel any sympathy for him - he knew what he was doing.



LOL the DEMOCRATIC culture of corruption? What planet are you living on?
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parados
 
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Reply Tue 11 Mar, 2008 08:49 am
woiyo wrote:
parados wrote:
woiyo wrote:


HERE COME THE APOLOGISTS.

Get your facts straight. He MAILED the "Emperors Club" the fee AND had her transported from NY to Washington DC.

Do you think he MAILED the money from DC the same night the hooker showed up? The US mail doesn't work that way. He was only in DC for the night which means he probably made the arrangments while in NY.

Getting the facts straight is hardly being an apologist. Maybe you should check the facts before you accuse others of not having facts.


From the NYTimes -
Quote:
The man described as Client 9 in court papers arranged to meet with a prostitute who was part of the ring, Emperors Club VIP, on the night of Feb. 13. Spitzer traveled to Washington, D.C., that evening, according to a person told of his travel arrangements.


Then from your story - also the NYTimes
Quote:
Mr. Spitzer's cited rendezvous with the prostitute on Feb. 13 occupies five pages of the 47-page affidavit. The document recounts parts of a half-dozen conversations Client 9 had with Ms. Lewis, the booking agent, in the roughly 24 hours leading up to his meeting with the prostitute at the Mayflower Hotel.

So. speaking of clues, do you think he mailed the money from DC the same evening the hooker showed up? Or do you think he mailed it while in NY so the money did NOT cross state lines
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parados
 
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Reply Tue 11 Mar, 2008 08:51 am
Roxxxanne wrote:
parados wrote:
Any man that packs up his wife and the sex toys and heads to another state on vacation is guilty of violating the Mann act.


Exactly! (well, wife might be problematic but certainly his girlfriend)



You mean I can't have a night of debauchery with my wife?
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parados
 
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Reply Tue 11 Mar, 2008 08:52 am
Roxxxanne wrote:
H2O_MAN wrote:
Spitzer is part of the Democratic culture of corruption.

I don't feel any sympathy for him - he knew what he was doing.



LOL the DEMOCRATIC culture of corruption? What planet are you living on?

I believe the NY Daily News used "Democratic culture of corruption" in their story on Spitzer.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 11 Mar, 2008 08:53 am
Quote:
Spitzer is part of the Democratic culture of corruption.

I don't feel any sympathy for him - he knew what he was doing.





Sorry the DEms took so long to even get on the page. Im proud at least that Spitzer wasnt giving hand jobs under the stall, or he wasnt diddling little boys.

Best thing to do whenever these things come up, is to criticize the actor and demand his outser. Dont make comparisons about whose team is least morally spent.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Tue 11 Mar, 2008 09:05 am
Ah-hah! It was the "someone" at the BANK who alerted the IRS as to "suspicious" transactions.

"Someone " at the bank...Wall Street? Pretty obvious to me.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 11 Mar, 2008 09:09 am
Proabaly a Jew no less. Rolling Eyes
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 11 Mar, 2008 10:22 am
DEMOCRATIC culture of corruption
Roxxxanne wrote:
H2O_MAN wrote:
Spitzer is part of the Democratic culture of corruption.

I don't feel any sympathy for him - he knew what he was doing.



LOL the DEMOCRATIC culture of corruption? What planet are you living on?


I live on the planet with a DEMOCRATIC culture of corruption on it same as you.
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