High Seas wrote:Listen up, you dimwitted ignoramus:
The history of the West consists of a long sequence of wars - you've heard of the Iliad, by Homer, by any chance? That was the beginning of Western Civilization, FYI!
Lots of people died in those wars; hardly any of them were actually jewish, and your idea that any state ever "guaranteed" protection from death at wartime is by far the most idiotic I've heard in the longest time.
You don't like it, you have the option of giving up your imaginary "guarantee" (from whom or what?) and dropping dead even in the absence of warfare.
No, don't thank me
Sorry, the European persecution of the Jews might be described as an ongoing civil war against a country's own people (the Jews); they were looked upon as "perennial outsiders" by the ex-pagan tribes that then inhabited Europe and called themselves by a new name, rather than their ancient tribal name. All the other wars you make reference to were between different governments - countries, or even city-states.
Jews lived fairly peaceably in pre-Christian Europe, and at worst were considered odd-fellows, and laughable, because they had this silly idea that there was only one God (from the pagan perspective). It was Christianity melded to feudalism that found a use for making the Jew a pariah, so he can handle money for the King or Prince, and be scorned by the subjugated peasant.
Only with the Protestant Reformation did Jews gain citizenship in countries that became Protestant. However, the millenium of anti-Semitic brainwashing already made Jew hating an intractable mental state of many Europeans.
Read Oliver Twist, and you'll see how even by the 19th century the Jews were considered a pariah that could only survive on the periphery of society.
Israel was a direct result of no one wanting the Jewish survivors of the Final Solution.
While many Israelis are already third or fourth generation born in Israel as Sabras, and there is no way they are going to move over completely, or go back to Europe, or go elsewhere, let's not reinterpret history and ignore the fact that Israel was a direct result of the Final Solution, which was a direct result of a millenium of Jew hating in Europe. The Nazis knew that scape-goating Jews was something Europeans would have a short learning curve. And, let's not forget that in many countries the Nazis invaded, and then asked towns people where any Jews were, and who can help, some hands were immediately raised. Only Denmark made an attempt to save all their Jews, and did. There were a few other efforts; Franco in Spain, possibly in Holland, and Catholic Nuns in France. Otherwise, many Europeans were quite comfortable with the Jews being eradicated.