Tax Returngate. What is Hillary Clinton Hiding?

Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2008 07:19 pm

The obvious strategy for Obama: A subtle attack on Hillary's tax-return cover-up

UPDATE, 1:10 P.M.: I posted this at 11:36 a.m. PST, which is 2:36 p.m. EST. This is what AP reported four minutes later.

Barack Obama's campaign took fresh aim at Hillary Clinton Wednesday for refusing to release her tax returns, asking in a memo circulated to reporters, "What does Clinton have to hide?"

"In the face of her unwillingness to release her tax returns, Hillary Clinton has made the false case in this campaign that she is more electable because she has been fully vetted," the memo stated. "When it comes to her personal finances, Senator Clinton's refusal to release her taxes returns denies the media and the American people the opportunity to even begin that process."

The delegate count and the dynamics of the race still make Barack Obama the strong favorite to win the Dem nomination, but the chances that Hillary Clinton can credibly take the fight all the way to the party's convention in Denver appear far higher after her wins Tuesday in Texas and Ohio. Clinton seems likely to claim another big state next month -- Pennsylvania, where the electorate is a lot like Ohio's -- buttressing her talking point about her record in big states. A revote in Michigan would probably favor Hillary, and perhaps Florida, too.

So how can Obama regain the momentum that led many to think he would wrap up the nomination this week? He can't keep his focus on John McCain. He has to respond to Hillary's attacks but do so in a way that doesn't seem harsh or nasty. He needs to preserve his image as a sunny, positive idealist.

The solution is obvious. Barack should go on the attack over Hillary and Bill Clinton's refusal to release their tax records -- but subtly, by framing it as part of his "electability" argument. He could say that Democrats need to know ASAP whether there is a big skeleton just waiting to emerge from the closet. He could argue that Hillary's insistence that the returns are a "non-issue" and a distraction and thus won't be released until the general election campaign isn't good enough -- that she owes Democrats the chance to see what fresh fodder the returns will provide McCain and the GOP political machine.

Obama wouldn't even have to bring up all the many reasons from the Clintons' past to cause worry about what the tax returns might reveal. The media would do it for him. Pundits of all stripes would also pounce on her self-evidently self-serving claim that releasing the returns now would divert attention from more important issues. And many of the pundits who found/find Bill Clinton too slippery to stomach will be happy to speculate about what the Clintons are hiding. The stories about how Bill rounds up money abroad for his foundation and his library have already raised plenty of eyebrows. You don't have to be a Clinton hater to wonder if some of his foreign donors are motivated by the implicit idea that they're bribing the spouse of a likely future president.

"I think the American people deserve to know where you get your income from," Obama said last year.

Here's what he could say now, to great effect:

"If we want to win in November, I think our party deserves to know where all its potential nominees get their money -- now, not after the convention. We face a tough fight against John McCain. The last thing we want to do is nominate someone who will then immediately give Sen. McCain a big club to use against her. That's why I released my returns. There will be no surprises with me after I am nominated."

I think this approach is now just about Obama's only hope for an early knockout. Otherwise, the Dem fight will drag on. And on. And on. And on. And on..

Posted by Chris Reed at March 5, 2008 11:36 AM

If Hillary 'huckabee' Clinton wants to take it all the way to the convention, she is most welcome. She thinks its either her or nobody . She is hell bent of destroying the democratic party if she does not get the nomination. She can go ahead and destroy the party but she will never be the president
Posted by: Siam at March 5, 2008 01:59 PM

What are the Clintons hiding? Is there a skelaton in the tax returns?

Also Hillary's leaking of a foriegn government memo is illegal. What won't she do to win? Now she is proposing a Clinton/ Obama ticket to muddy the waters...not so fast. Obama will not go for it.

Obama needs to bring out the big guns, and attack Hillary where she is vulnerable.....everywhere. Honesty, Integrity, where are those traits in Hillary Clinton?
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 08:10 am
I'm generally with Clinton on this. I seriously doubt that the Clinton's return will show fraud. It will show that Bill makes serious hay on the lecture tour and that the Clinton's have plenty of investment lucre coming in. All of that is legal. I'm sure some will twist that to imply they are evil just like they made fun of the charitable deductions the Clintons took 16 years ago. If she is not legally required to disclose her tax returns, she shouldn't have to.
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 02:40 pm
I noticed there was another article in the paper sugesting that Clinton drop out for the good of the party. If obomaites are so worried about the party why don't they encourage Obama to drop out and run again in eight years. She wins the big states, he docent. And if they counted all the states Clinton would be even with Obamas delegate count.
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 03:00 pm
Problem is, engineer, that if Bill got huge payouts from abroad - which he did - and then this money was used to fund the 5 million dollar loan that Hillary made her campaign - which it was, in all likelihood - then Clinton has legal troubles. Bill himself said as much in Iowa in Jan.

It's an effective attack, as it fits in with the 'she hasn't been vetted' meme.


Why should Obama drop out? He's considerably in the lead and has much more money. Statistically he is the favorite to win by a large amount. If anyone should drop out, it should be Clinton.

You will also note that in the Survey USA polling done today, with a 50-state matchup, Obama beats McCain by MORE then Hillary does, by putting more so-called 'red' states into play. This is a significant advantage that he has. The idea that he isn't going to win CA, NY, MA - ludicrous. Any dem would win those states.

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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 03:29 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Problem is, engineer, that if Bill got huge payouts from abroad - which he did - and then this money was used to fund the 5 million dollar loan that Hillary made her campaign - which it was, in all likelihood - then Clinton has legal troubles. Bill himself said as much in Iowa in Jan.

If he made money from abroad legally and then uses it for whatever he wants, that is fine. If I were running for office, I would resist releasing my tax returns. Everyone does not need to know what charities I donate to, how much my mortgage is, the SS# of my children, the performance of my investments, etc. Think of how much information is in a tax return and how much more can be deduced with a little common sense. I bet Bill Clinton gets some perfectly legal pay that he doesn't want scrutinized, but if it is legal, that is his right. Of course some would say if you want the brass ring, you have to pay that price, but it's always been something that I've felt is wrong.
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Reply Sat 8 Mar, 2008 06:19 am
Hillary keeps promising that she will release her tax returns when and if she is the nominee. What is her possible justification for that. Russert had her nailed on this one and all she could do is stammer and double talk.

Why does she want to wait until she gets the nomination?
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Reply Tue 11 Dec, 2012 02:38 pm
There is a huge reason for Hillary's hiding. While she was first lady she made a huge mistake and of course covered it up. This scandal is at the heart of US national Security and our ongoing struggle with China.

This scandal involves China, economic espionage, computers, murder and a former US Marine who tried to warn us in 1996.

Hopefully everyone will soon realize that China is attacking the US economically. China has been systematically causing chaos in this country.

Examples are Chinese drywall, toys from China with lead paint, toothpaste from China with poison in it and most importantly cyber attacks.

You see, China makes everything we buy anymore. Including computers and networking equipment. The problem is that computers control everything. Banks, businesses, universities, religious organizations and every government in the world are controlled by computers.

Recent news stories show that China is shipping US OEM computer boards with malicious codes pre-installed. It is these malicious codes that are at the center of the scandal Mrs. Clinton is hiding. Most computer experts have not had a clue.

In 1996 this former US Marine, upon learning of a process to rid computers of these malicious codes, reported his discovery to the federal authorities. The response? Bill Clinton told him to keep his mouth shut. When he refused? He experienced an attempted murder.

It is very simple. While we like the low costs associated with Chinese made products, it is foolish to give communist China the keys to our national security. Let China make tennis shoes, TV's, radios, forks and spoons. But for God's sake, why would we let communist China make computers that control our entire lives? Are we really that foolish?

China threatened to launch a nuclear rocket aimed at Los Angeles in 1996. Why exactly would we want China to make our computer systems and expect them not to use that technology against us? They have been doing just that for decades.

It is a new world America and computers control it. Now there are computer viruses that can change the candidate you vote for in the computerized voting machines. There are undetected viruses that get into your computer and cause it to fail every three months cheating you of your hard earned money.

I pray that people will wake up. China is not our friend. They seek to destroy the United States of America through economic slight of hand and cyber warfare. My name is Michael and I hold the true legacy of the Clinton's in my hand. I can save any organization 50% of their current computer budget.

May God help us all.
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