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U.S. TAXPAYERS FACE $2 TRILLION NIGHTMARE

 
 
Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2008 04:13 pm
Here is an excellent piece on the true cost of the war in Iraq. The figures are staggering, and make the case for dumping those in congress who continued to support this travesty.


Wed, Mar. 05, 2008

U.S. taxpayers face $2 trillion nightmare
That's what America's war in Iraq is expected to ultimately cost
BOB HERBERT
New York Times

We've been hearing a lot about "Saturday Night Live" and the fun it has been having with the presidential race. But hardly a whisper has been heard about a congressional hearing in Washington last week on a topic that could have been drawn, in all its tragic monstrosity, from the theater of the absurd.

The war in Iraq will ultimately cost U.S. taxpayers not hundreds of billions of dollars, but an astonishing $2 trillion, and perhaps more. There has been very little in the way of public conversation, even in the presidential campaigns, about the consequences of these costs, which are like a cancer inside the American economy.

On Thursday, the Joint Economic Committee, chaired by Sen. Chuck Schumer, conducted a public examination of the costs of the war. The witnesses included the Nobel Prize-winning economist, Joseph Stiglitz (who believes the overall costs of the war -- not just the cost to taxpayers -- will reach $3 trillion), and Robert Hormats, vice chairman of Goldman Sachs International.

Both men talked about large opportunities lost because of the money poured into the war. "For a fraction of the cost of this war," said Stiglitz, "we could have put Social Security on a sound footing for the next half-century or more."

What wasn't funded?

Hormats mentioned Social Security and Medicare, saying that both could have been put "on a more sustainable basis." And he cited the committee's own calculations from last fall that showed that the money spent on the war each day is enough to enroll an additional 58,000 children in Head Start for a year, or make a year of college affordable for 160,000 low-income students through Pell Grants, or pay the annual salaries of nearly 11,000 additional border patrol agents or 14,000 more police officers.What we're getting instead is the stuff of nightmares. Stiglitz, a professor at Columbia, has been working with a colleague at Harvard, Linda Bilmes, to document some of the less obvious costs of the war. These include the obligation to provide health care and disability benefits for returning veterans. Those costs will be with us for decades.

Stiglitz noted that nearly 40 percent of the 700,000 troops from the first Gulf War, which lasted just a month, have become eligible for disability benefits. The current war is approaching five years in duration.

"Imagine then," said Stiglitz, "what a war -- that will almost surely involve more than 2 million troops and will almost surely last more than six or seven years -- will cost. Already we are seeing large numbers of returning veterans showing up at VA hospitals for treatment, large numbers applying for disability and large numbers with severe psychological problems."

The Bush administration has tried its best to conceal the horrendous costs of the war. It has bypassed the normal budgetary process, financing the war almost entirely through "emergency" appropriations that get far less scrutiny.

Even the most basic wartime information is difficult to come by. Stiglitz, who has written a new book with Bilmes called "The Three Trillion Dollar War," said they had to go to veterans' groups, who had to resort to the Freedom of Information Act, just to find out how many Americans had been injured in Iraq.

War financed by deficits

Stiglitz and Hormats both addressed the foolhardiness of waging war at the same time that the government is cutting taxes and sharply increasing non-war-related expenditures.

Hormats told the committee:

"Normally, when America goes to war, nonessential spending programs are reduced to make room in the budget for the higher costs of the war. Individual programs that benefit specific constituencies are sacrificed for the common good. ... And taxes have never been cut during a major American war. For example, President Eisenhower adamantly resisted pressure from Senate Republicans for a tax cut during the Korean War."

Said Stiglitz: "Because the administration actually cut taxes as we went to war, when we were already running huge deficits, this war has, effectively, been entirely financed by deficits. The national debt has increased by some $2.5 trillion since the beginning of the war, and of this, almost $1 trillion is due directly to the war itself. ... By 2017, we estimate that the national debt will have increased, just because of the war, by some $2 trillion."

Some former presidents -- Washington, Franklin Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower -- were quoted at the hearing on the need for accountability and shared sacrifice during wartime. But this is the 21st century. That ancient rhetoric can hardly be expected to compete for media attention, even in a time of war, with the giddy fun of SNL.

It's a new era.

Bob

Herbert
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Green Witch
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2008 04:25 pm
I'm sure the children and grandchildren of McGentrix, Hanno, Flaja, Okie, Mysteryman, et al will do their patriotic duty and happily pay their future taxes, and go without services, until this debt is taken care of.
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2008 04:34 pm
"Our nation has the best health care in the world
and President Bush is making it more affordable
and accessible to all Americans."

Vice President Dick Cheney

Sept. 1, 2004
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hanno
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2008 10:01 pm
You don't think the free market maximizes benefit/cost but when one team owes another team money that's supposed to be a law of the cosmic balance regardless of time, scale, GDP growth, and nuclear arsenal. Playground logic - all talk and arbitrary rules no blood sweat and tears. Nothing worth bleeding sweating and crying for - not for the individual unless he/she is playing the ultimate game - politics and altruism.


Yeah right, be Mother Theresa or Bill Clinton, otherwise content yourself with cast-aluminum deck furniture, advanced-protection skin cream and front-wheel-drive. Or, if you're lucky and like to be a big fish in a small bowl, be a happy medium like a grad student in flip flops, a civic-hero whose choice of mall shopping venues follows some aesthetic, or a middle aged couple who decided to live the dream and start a business or buy a historic property. Like, why can't everyone just be cool?
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2008 10:06 pm
I'm cool. I do what I like no more no less no matter who the president is, and I manage to support myself and my family while doing it.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Thu 6 Mar, 2008 10:09 am
hanno wrote:
You don't think the free market maximizes benefit/cost but when one team owes another team money that's supposed to be a law of the cosmic balance regardless of time, scale, GDP growth, and nuclear arsenal. Playground logic - all talk and arbitrary rules no blood sweat and tears. Nothing worth bleeding sweating and crying for - not for the individual unless he/she is playing the ultimate game - politics and altruism.


Yeah right, be Mother Theresa or Bill Clinton, otherwise content yourself with cast-aluminum deck furniture, advanced-protection skin cream and front-wheel-drive. Or, if you're lucky and like to be a big fish in a small bowl, be a happy medium like a grad student in flip flops, a civic-hero whose choice of mall shopping venues follows some aesthetic, or a middle aged couple who decided to live the dream and start a business or buy a historic property. Like, why can't everyone just be cool?



Also, even with the growing mountain of debt and the sinking fortunes in our country, be sure to keep in place and, later, renew the tax cuts for the super-wealthy.
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hanno
 
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Reply Fri 7 Mar, 2008 08:47 pm
Tell me all the horror stories you want about robber barons and Halliburton, I bet there'll be plenty of platitudes (thanks Mr. McCain) yet none of the biting elegance of the Lakeshore-Drive chapter of 'The Jungle'. But give me a plan that don't involve taxing blue-collars more too. Yeah, I know they'll get it back in public works and healthcare and a stronger nation without wars, but don't **** on my head and expect to hear thanks for the hat - if you want to collect up more money you want to collect up more money. If the nation were a poorly lit parking lot (and we're all doing what we can to make that dream a reality), Hillary's campaign would be a mugging - give me the money, do as I say and it'll be cool.

I've yet to hear a Dem say what good they can do with the money (and freedom) the G already takes and pull any of it off, so why should they have my confidence to take more? Everything they sell assumes increasing marginal returns to socialism, yet the last one we gave a chance to make it happen just pardoned a few felons and tried to steal furniture after lying about befouling someone's tonsils in the Oval Office.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Sat 8 Mar, 2008 09:50 am
I would take a touch of socialism in this country to our growing plutocracy. The Bush administration certainly did its best to advance the latter.

One out of three people in this country either has no, or inadequate, health insurance coverage. In essence, these people are told to just drop dead, and be quiet while doing so.

The war was a Bush fraud on the country. He was out to grab Iraq's oil and gain political capital while doing so. But he couldn't even get this right. In general, he will go down as about the worst president in history.
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