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Socialized Medicine and the death of the world

 
 
blatham
 
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Reply Thu 28 Feb, 2008 01:29 pm
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How many times Lord shall we forgive a democratic led congress with a 22% approval rating?


666 times, give or take.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 29 Feb, 2008 01:45 am
Re: Socialized Medicine and the death of the world
Walter Hinteler wrote:
RexRed wrote:
Without competition in medicine will cures be discovered soon enough to help un-renewable species that are becoming extinct at a rapid pace?

Bacteria is drug resistant now, fungus are killing reptiles at an alarming pace. Viruses are beyond our scope still to eradicate.

Do we need socialized medicine to slow down by decades the discovery of new medicines and cures for these medical dilemmas?


After "socialised" medicine was introduced (in 1883, by the conservative chancellor Bismarck), Röntgen invented x-rays, Felix Hoffmann and Arthur Eichengrün Aspirin, about 300 spa towns were established ...

.... don't ask me to write down all and everything.


Hmm, I wonder why Canada is stealing our drug patents in the US and selling them on the black market instead of inventing their own then?

If they were not stealing our drugs patents Americans would not be paying so much for them and even more discoveries would be possible. Canada's socialized medicine is like a leech on American pharmaceutical companies.

Also German chemistry was well into technology long before socialized medicine was introduced. Are you saying socialized medicine was what made the Germans so much into science, and not their universities? Maybe it was simply because they were not royal elites who were afraid of and frowned on any form of servile work? Germany had just as many scientists before that and we could debate whether if socialized medicine may have actually hurt the German war machine. You do remember that America and their free enterprise system of government won that war?

Good try Walter.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 29 Feb, 2008 01:53 am
blatham wrote:
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How many times Lord shall we forgive a democratic led congress with a 22% approval rating?


666 times, give or take.


You are much more generous than I. Smile
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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 29 Feb, 2008 02:12 am
snood wrote:
Sheesh, rexred. Do you talk in cryptic cliches and biblical verses in your everyday life, as well? Bet that makes folks just stand in line to get a conversation with you.


Beleive it or not 99% of my friends are democrats...

They must have a lower standard. Smile

hehe
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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 29 Feb, 2008 02:16 am
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
so you forgive congress then? Because forgive is the SPECIFIC word you used...

Rex perhaps you are concerned about the end of the world because you're hedging your bets just in case homosexuals DO go to hell?

I mean, that is the Christian teaching correct?


Where does the Bible say "homosexuals DO go to hell"?

Chapter and verse please.

Do you even know what the "unforgivable sin" is and why it IS most certainly "unforgivable"?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 29 Feb, 2008 02:54 am
Re: Socialized Medicine and the death of the world
RexRed wrote:
Also German chemistry was well into technology long before socialized medicine was introduced. Are you saying socialized medicine was what made the Germans so much into science, and not their universities? Maybe it was simply because they were not royal elites who were afraid of and frowned on any form of servile work? Germany had just as many scientists before that and we could debate whether if socialized medicine may have actually hurt the German war machine. You do remember that America and their free enterprise system of government won that war?

Good try Walter.


ad 1) Patients in universities were and are on "socialised" medecine - it's madatory, everyone had to join .... and could choose in the old days out of more than 5,000 health insurance companies, nowadays reduced to a bit less than 300.

Well, mandatory health isnurence certainly is the reason for wars, Hitler and anything else was is bad. Twisted Evil
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snood
 
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Reply Fri 29 Feb, 2008 03:02 am
I'm no Bible scholar, but the NKJ version does say this:

1 Corinthians 6:9-10

9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[a] nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Fri 29 Feb, 2008 04:24 am
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Also German chemistry was well into technology long before socialized medicine was introduced. Are you saying socialized medicine was what made the Germans so much into science, and not their universities? Maybe it was simply because they were not royal elites who were afraid of and frowned on any form of servile work? Germany had just as many scientists before that and we could debate whether if socialized medicine may have actually hurt the German war machine. You do remember that America and their free enterprise system of government won that war?
You are barking.
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hamburger
 
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Reply Fri 29 Feb, 2008 12:00 pm
rex wrote :

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Hmm, I wonder why Canada is stealing our drug patents in the US and selling them on the black market instead of inventing their own then?

If they were not stealing our drugs patents Americans would not be paying so much for them and even more discoveries would be possible. Canada's socialized medicine is like a leech on American pharmaceutical companies.


last time i checked , american drug companies were selling their drugs quite happily to canadian purchasers .
i didn't know that they were being forced to sell them to canadian companies .
i'm sure if they were "STOLEN" , the american drug companies would quickly sue canadian companies .
i've also noticed that some "american" drugs are no longer being manufactured in the united states only , but by subsidiaries of american companies offshore - interesting , isn't it ???

i would suggest that you check the information on trade and trade relations between the united states and canada BEFORE disseminating further INFORMATION ( :wink: ) on this subject .
obtaining some knowledge about a subject BEFORE talking about it is always a good idea - but i know we all make mistakes on occasion .
hbg

(just as an aside : should canada accuse the united states of STEALING our natural resources - gas and oil in particalular - even though we sell it freely to the united states ?)
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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 29 Feb, 2008 03:00 pm
snood wrote:
I'm no Bible scholar, but the NKJ version does say this:

1 Corinthians 6:9-10

9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[a] nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.


Heterosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of heaven either... because there is no marriage in heaven... Give that some thought Snood.

Sometimes it is what is not written that sheds the greatest light on God's kingdom of "righteousness".

Matthew 22:30
For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

Mark 12:25
For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.

Comment: So much for virgins and beer...

Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Comment: Sometimes what we impose on others in this life comes back upon us in the end.

A person's sexuality or behavior does not necessarily encompass the entire being.


There will not even be any remembrance of this world in the next.

The Bible says homosexuality is an "abomination" yet eating pork is also an "abomination".

WHY? Because promiscuity was causing people to get sick just as eating improperly cured ham was causing death also. So look at the heart of the scriptures rather than the letter of the law.

It is an abomination to put the body into a situation where STD's are likely to bring sickness and possible death. God ultimately judges the heart.
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contrex
 
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Reply Fri 29 Feb, 2008 03:03 pm
Rexred, you sure are a loony. Why don't you jest set right down and pour yourself a big brimming glass of STFU?
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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 29 Feb, 2008 03:05 pm
contrex wrote:
Rexred, you sure are a loony. Why don't you jest set right down and pour yourself a big brimming glass of STFU?


Again biblically unsubstantiated GARBAGE!
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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 29 Feb, 2008 03:18 pm
Steve 41oo wrote:
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Also German chemistry was well into technology long before socialized medicine was introduced. Are you saying socialized medicine was what made the Germans so much into science, and not their universities? Maybe it was simply because they were not royal elites who were afraid of and frowned on any form of servile work? Germany had just as many scientists before that and we could debate whether if socialized medicine may have actually hurt the German war machine. You do remember that America and their free enterprise system of government won that war?
You are barking.

What do I know? I am actually paraphrasing from the greatest science series ever made by "James Burke". But you would know that if you had as I did "studied" the series named "Connections"...

Imagine that, a Christian who is studied in science and history also.

I actually own digital copies of all three series, Connections 1, 2 and The Day The Universe Changed.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 29 Feb, 2008 03:27 pm
hamburger wrote:
rex wrote :

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Hmm, I wonder why Canada is stealing our drug patents in the US and selling them on the black market instead of inventing their own then?

If they were not stealing our drugs patents Americans would not be paying so much for them and even more discoveries would be possible. Canada's socialized medicine is like a leech on American pharmaceutical companies.


last time i checked , american drug companies were selling their drugs quite happily to canadian purchasers .
i didn't know that they were being forced to sell them to canadian companies .
i'm sure if they were "STOLEN" , the american drug companies would quickly sue canadian companies .
i've also noticed that some "american" drugs are no longer being manufactured in the united states only , but by subsidiaries of american companies offshore - interesting , isn't it ???

i would suggest that you check the information on trade and trade relations between the united states and canada BEFORE disseminating further INFORMATION ( :wink: ) on this subject .
obtaining some knowledge about a subject BEFORE talking about it is always a good idea - but i know we all make mistakes on occasion .
hbg

(just as an aside : should canada accuse the united states of STEALING our natural resources - gas and oil in particalular - even though we sell it freely to the united states ?)


And what of the marijuana being smuggled over the border into the US from Canada and illegal internet drug sales?

Can you show me an article about the US stealing natural resources from Canada?

I am not saying it is not happening but I would like to be better informed if and how it is happening.
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hamburger
 
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Reply Fri 29 Feb, 2008 05:10 pm
hbg wrote :

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just as an aside : should canada accuse the united states of STEALING our natural resources - gas and oil in particalular - even though we sell it freely to the united states ?


rex wrote :

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Can you show me an article about the US stealing natural resources from Canada?



hbg wrote : "we sell it freely to the united states" - please see above .
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rex wrote : " I wonder why Canada is stealing our drug patents in the US and selling them on the black market " .

???
i ccertainly haven't heard of that before .
have U.S. drug companies not filed any formal complaints if that is happening ?

hbg wrote : "american drug companies were selling their drugs quite happily to canadian purchasers " .

do you believe that U.S. manufacturers would continue selling their drugs to canada if canadian companies are stealing their patents ?

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if you would like to be better informed , why not research creditable sources ?
there are plenty of them available .
hbg

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and speaking of DRUGS (and guns) , this is from ABC NEWS , a fairly creditable news source , i would think :

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An illegal gun pipeline from Houston to Toronto has officials on both sides of the border alarmed.

Canadian police seized almost 40 deadly weapons, including an AK-47, and hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash late last week in what police are calling the biggest gang raid ever in the country. The raid took place on an Indian reservation outside of Toronto, only a few hours from the U.S. border.

According to authorities, the guns came from Houston, Texas in what they call a cross-border gun pipeline. Last year border officials seized 180 guns, but it's estimated that over $1 billion of contraband, including guns and drugs, are smuggled across the border through these reservations every year. The result has been an increase in violent crime, particularly gang warfare, in major cities like Toronto and Montreal.



source :
THE U.S. - CANADA GUN PIPELINE
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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 29 Feb, 2008 05:28 pm
ABC NEWS? Fairly credible?

BIG laugh.

Fox news is the only reasonably credible news source I care to plug into.

I have to turn the channel after five minutes of watching ABC news because they slant the news so much i want to vomit.

Even Fox news is too "liberal" for me.

When does ABC news EVER invite the opinions of conservatives?

i.e. Laura Ingram, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Michelle Malkin and the list goes on all the way down to your humble but outspoken RexRed...
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RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 29 Feb, 2008 05:31 pm
Are they liberal drug dealers buying those black market guns?

This is just another unintended side effect of your socialized medicine.
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djjd62
 
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Reply Fri 29 Feb, 2008 05:35 pm
Shocked , i have something in common with rex, we both like rush

i'm pretty sure we listen for completely different reasons

i think he's funny, not as funny as savage, but pretty damn funny
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hamburger
 
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Reply Fri 29 Feb, 2008 06:12 pm
rex wrote :

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Are they liberal drug dealers buying those black market guns?


i think you'll have a tough time finding a LIBERAL drug dealer .
it is my understanding that they are ARCH-CONSERVATIVE - they don't like paying taxes and keep the profits for themselves - i doubt they could be any more conservative :wink: .

btw you may have missed that those drugs are coming FROM the united states to canada - i don't know if it falls under NAFTA or not Shocked

what do you think ?
hbg
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hamburger
 
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Reply Fri 29 Feb, 2008 06:23 pm
rex wrote :

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Even Fox news is too "liberal" for me.

When does ABC news EVER invite the opinions of conservatives?

i.e. Laura Ingram, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Michelle Malkin and the list goes on all the way down to your humble but outspoken RexRed...


as that the same ANN COULTER who would rather vote for hillary clinton than john mccain ? :wink:

she even wants to campaign for hillary , i understand - that's going to garner hillary plenty of additional votes , i'm sure .
hbg


gotta love this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuTqgqhxVMc
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