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USA Today/Gallup Obama 51% Hillary 39%

 
 
Reply Mon 25 Feb, 2008 03:09 pm
Obama Rolls


The Illinois senator has surged to a double-digit lead nationally over Clinton, walloping her 51%-39% among Democrat voters as their preference for the presidential nomination. The poll of 2,012 adults was taken Thursday through Sunday.
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Ragman
 
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Reply Mon 25 Feb, 2008 05:24 pm
Voting in booth vs. answering poll
No offense but polls are fairly meaningless at this stage of the game. Love to see what happens AFTER Ohio and Texas actually do their voting. Polls don't elect and/or nominate the candidates
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Tue 26 Feb, 2008 09:05 am
Actually, they are not meaningless at all. They might be meaningless to you but the campaigns use them hourly as well as using focus groups to decide strategy.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Tue 26 Feb, 2008 09:31 am
I have said before that polls are meaningless.
At best they show what people are thinking AT THAT MOMENT.
At worst, they can be misleading and innacurate.

Polls depend on exactly how the questions are worded to get the result they want.
If the question was worded exactly, I could post a poll where you would end up saying that you thought Hitler and the Nazi's were the best thing to evr happen to this planet, and that he was one of the best world leaders of all time.

I dont think you really believe that, but a properly worded poll question would have you saying that.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Tue 26 Feb, 2008 09:44 am
mysteryman wrote:
I have said before that polls are meaningless.
At best they show what people are thinking AT THAT MOMENT.
At worst, they can be misleading and innacurate.

Polls depend on exactly how the questions are worded to get the result they want.
If the question was worded exactly, I could post a poll where you would end up saying that you thought Hitler and the Nazi's were the best thing to evr happen to this planet, and that he was one of the best world leaders of all time.

I dont think you really believe that, but a properly worded poll question would have you saying that.



Total bullshit. Polls are conducted scientifically for the most part and they must be as they are relied on by strategists to decide on an hourly basis, what is working for the campaign and what is not. Apparently the nice Hillary didn't sway too many voters from Obama, that is why we are now seeing the bitch Hillary, unfortunately, that ain't gonna work either.

An astute observer would question if campaigns react too drastically not if they are meaningless or not. That is just ignorance.

Perhaps, if Team Hillary had releid less on polling and morre on a a cohesive, sound and steady strategy, she wouldn't be in the position she is in today.

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CBS/NYT Poll: Obama Up By 16 Points Nationally Over Hillary
By Eric Kleefeld - February 25, 2008, 11:27PM

The new CBS/New York Times poll gives Barack Obama a huge 16-point national lead over Hillary Clinton, providing some corroboration to the USA Today/Gallup poll from earlier today that had him ahead by 12 point. Here are the numbers, compared to the last poll from early February:

Obama 54% (+13)
Clinton 38% (-3)

And in the general election match-ups, Obama is also the stronger of the two Democrats against John McCain:

Obama (D) 50%, McCain (R) 38%
Clinton (D) 46%, McCain (R) 46%


courtesy tpm.com
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flyboy804
 
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Reply Tue 26 Feb, 2008 10:31 am
Accurate or not, they do have an effect. People like to back a winner; and the polls provide an impetus to back the one with the perceived lead.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Tue 26 Feb, 2008 10:38 am
In the primaries, voters want to back a candidate who will win the general. It is not about backing a winner per se. Not for me anyway.
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Ragman
 
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Reply Tue 26 Feb, 2008 06:09 pm
The electorate at large is ignorant of what plans, policies and values the candidates stand for. The press sure isn't helping that cause either -- making this more of a beauty contest than a serious race for the Presidency.

Prove this by asking 100 people a typical 'candidate values' question like "which candidate thinks he'd be fine with being in Iraq for the next 100 years"? I'll bet even on A2K there's less than 20% that would know this without looking it up.
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