Hillary mocks Obama, next follows her concession.

Obama's held his own quite well so far and I expect him to continue to do so as the hitting gets heavier and heavier.

sozobe wrote:

Obama's held his own quite well so far and I expect him to continue to do so as the hitting gets heavier and heavier.

I'm sure you're right. I'm not one of those that sees Obama as a lightweight.

I do think some of his supporters (not you) have an unreasonable adoration for him. (I would argue that "How dare she make fun of him?!?!?" is an example of this.)

DrewDad wrote:

sozobe wrote:

Obama's held his own quite well so far and I expect him to continue to do so as the hitting gets heavier and heavier.

I'm sure you're right. I'm not one of those that sees Obama as a lightweight.

I do think some of his supporters (not you) have an unreasonable adoration for him. (I would argue that "How dare she make fun of him?!?!?" is an example of this.)

I guess you would prefer apathy?

sozobe wrote:

(I would argue that "How dare she make fun of him?!?!?" is an example of this.)

I don't think people are jumping up and down because she "dares" to make fun of him or anything of the kind. My problem, and the problem for most I believe, is the simple fact that these tactics are just what so many are tired of and fed up with and while she tries to position herself as a warrior for change, she continues to wallow in this disingenious, backstabbing, backbiting behavior. And treating the American public like we're just too stupid to see it. It's insulting. Plain and simple. And that's what turns me off most of all about her. That and trying to count her husband's years of experience as her own. How weak is that?

I do think some of his supporters (not you) have an unreasonable adoration for him. (I would argue that "How dare she make fun of him?!?!?" is an example of this.)

It's not mocking, it's reducto ad absurdum.

Get a brain.

Must've struck a nerve....

not just that thats not what Jasonrest said, but also that Jasonrest is no Obamaite - he's one of those Ron Paul guys...

DrewDad wrote:

I do think some of his supporters (not you) have an unreasonable adoration for him. (I would argue that "How dare she make fun of him?!?!?" is an example of this.)

But all Jasonrest said was that Hillary "mocked" Obama. And thats what you called him brainless for.

You really think it's brainless to describe Hillary's little routine here as "mocking"? Cause I dunno, eems like a fairly straightforward description of what she's doing - regardless of whether you mind it or not. Sure, you can say that mocking is part of the game, which a candidate's just gonna have to be able to deal with, but I mean, that's still what it is, no?

If you were really just venting your exasperation with the kind of Obama supporters who seem to feel that noone should ever criticize Obama, there's another small problem: not just that thats not what Jasonrest said, but also that Jasonrest is no Obamaite - he's one of those Ron Paul guys...

nimh wrote:

DrewDad wrote:

I do think some of his supporters (not you) have an unreasonable adoration for him. (I would argue that "How dare she make fun of him?!?!?" is an example of this.)

But all Jasonrest said was that Hillary "mocked" Obama. And thats what you called him brainless for.

You really think it's brainless to describe Hillary's little routine here as "mocking"? Cause I dunno, eems like a fairly straightforward description of what she's doing - regardless of whether you mind it or not. Sure, you can say that mocking is part of the game, which a candidate's just gonna have to be able to deal with, but I mean, that's still what it is, no?

If you were really just venting your exasperation with the kind of Obama supporters who seem to feel that noone should ever criticize Obama, there's another small problem: not just that thats not what Jasonrest said, but also that Jasonrest is no Obamaite - he's one of those Ron Paul guys...

OK. "Get a life" or "toughen up" would've been a more precise expression of what I was feeling.

Except that apathy isn't the extreme opposite of adoration. Apathy was the norm for young voters before Obama came along.