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NYT: Somber Clinton Camp Faces the Inevitable

 
 
Reply Sun 24 Feb, 2008 09:54 am
Clinton campaign on the verge of throwing in the towel?


By PATRICK HEALY
Published: February 24, 2008

To her longtime friends, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton sounds unusually philosophical on the phone these days. She rarely uses phrases like "when I'm president" anymore. Somber at times, determined at others, she talks to aides and confidants about the importance of focusing on a good day's work. No drapes are being measured in her mind's eye, they say.


And Mrs. Clinton has begun thanking some of her major supporters for helping her run for the Democratic presidential nomination.

"When this is all over, I'm really looking forward to seeing you," she told one of those supporters by phone the other day.

Mrs. Clinton has not given up, in her head or her heart, her quest to return to the White House, advisers say. But as resolute as she is, she no longer exudes the supreme confidence that was her trademark before the first defeat, in Iowa in January. And then there were more humbling blows, aides say: replacing her campaign manager on Feb. 10, then losing the Wisconsin primary and her hold on the women's vote there last Tuesday.

If she is not temperamentally suited to reckon with the possibility of losing quite yet, advisers say, she is also a cold, hard realist about politics ?- at some point, she is known to say, someone will win and someone will not.

"She has a real military discipline that, now that times are tough, has really kicked into gear," said Judith Hope, a friend and informal adviser to Mrs. Clinton, and a former chairwoman of the New York State Democratic Party. "When she's on the road and someone has a negative news story, she says, ?'I don't want to hear it; I don't need to hear it.' I think she wants to protect herself from that and stay focused.

"That said, she knows that there will be an end," Ms. Hope said. "She is a very smart woman."

Over take-out meals and late-night drinks, some regrets and recriminations have set in, and top aides have begun to face up to the campaign's possible end after the Texas and Ohio primaries on March 4. Engaging in hindsight, several advisers have now concluded that they were not smart to use former President Bill Clinton as much as they did, that "his presence, aura and legacy caused national fatigue with the Clintons," in the words of one senior adviser who spoke on condition of anonymity to assess the campaign candidly.

The campaign's chief strategist, Mark Penn, and its communications director, Howard Wolfson, have expressed frustration with the difficulty of "running against a phenomenon" in Senator Barack Obama; their attacks have not stopped Mr. Obama from winning the last 11 contests. Some aides said Mr. Penn and the former campaign manager, Patti Solis Doyle, had conceived and executed a terribly flawed campaign, something Ms. Solis Doyle disputes. Both she and Mr. Penn have been especially criticized as not planning a political strategy to compete in the primaries after Feb. 5.

"I do believe we built a good organization ?- 700 people, $100 million, nationwide offices, and a strong base of support and endorsements that helped us win big states like California and New Jersey," Ms. Solis Doyle said in an interview. "Every time people have written us off, like after Iowa, we've come back."

There is a widespread feeling among donors and some advisers, though, that a comeback this time may be improbable. Her advisers said internal polls showed a very tough race to win the Texas primary ?- a contest that no less than Mr. Clinton has said is a "must win." And while advisers are drawing some hope from Mrs. Clinton's indefatigable nature, some are burning out.

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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sun 24 Feb, 2008 10:02 am
Oncew again, America sends home Chris Daughtry and votes for Taylor Hicks...
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JPB
 
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Reply Sun 24 Feb, 2008 10:13 am
Re: NYT: Somber Clinton Camp Faces the Inevitable
Roxxxanne wrote:
Over take-out meals and late-night drinks, some regrets and recriminations have set in, and top aides have begun to face up to the campaign's possible end after the Texas and Ohio primaries on March 4. Engaging in hindsight, several advisers have now concluded that they were not smart to use former President Bill Clinton as much as they did, that "his presence, aura and legacy caused national fatigue with the Clintons," in the words of one senior adviser who spoke on condition of anonymity to assess the campaign candidly.


Heaven forbid they admit that the reason she is failing is her own doing. Now, it's Bill's fault. Why am I not surprised?
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revel
 
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Reply Sun 24 Feb, 2008 10:45 am
I don't think it is really either Bill or Hillary's fault. People just support Obama more than Hillary and I think it is as simple as that.
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snood
 
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Reply Sun 24 Feb, 2008 10:56 am
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
Oncew again, America sends home Chris Daughtry and votes for Taylor Hicks...



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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sun 24 Feb, 2008 11:03 am
real one trick pony aintcha?
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Sun 24 Feb, 2008 11:04 am
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
real one trick pony aintcha?


That would make two of ya, then

Cycloptichorn
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sun 24 Feb, 2008 11:11 am
stick your head out for air did ya?
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rabel22
 
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Reply Sun 24 Feb, 2008 11:47 am
Snoods and Cyclos posts show the intelligence quotient of the average Obama supporter.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sun 24 Feb, 2008 11:50 am
let's be real. Neither of these guys are stupid... not even close. Annoying dicks, but not stupid by any means.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Sun 24 Feb, 2008 11:56 am
Would you categorize yourself the same way, BpB? Your posting in this thread is not materially different then mine or Snood's.

Cycloptichorn
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sun 24 Feb, 2008 11:58 am
I don't stalk snood. big difference.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Sun 24 Feb, 2008 12:05 pm
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
I don't stalk snood. big difference.


Nobody stalks you either. Why, I'm sure the vast majority of your snarky attempts are uncommented on by anyone.

Cycloptichon
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sun 24 Feb, 2008 02:35 pm
except of course for the couple of snarks who simply don't have the discipline or control to avoid responding in kind and taking the bait.

Peter 2:22

But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
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