Why 7 days for Creation?

science doesnt have to egage in some form of orwellian redefinition of what a book really sez. the evidence gives dates and footprints

Correct! Science confirms that a singularity was all that existed before this particular period of universal activity began its expansion, and the scientific evidence suggests, that this universe is in the process of regression to its point of origin.

Another universe may have preceded ours, scientific study finds. May 14th, 2006. Courtesy Penn State University and World Science staff.

Three physicists say they have done calculations suggesting that before the birth of our universe, which is expanding, there was an earlier universe that was shrinking. To arrive at their pre-existing universe finding, Ashtekar’s group used loop quantum gravity, a theory that seeks to reconcile General relativity with quantum physics.

These two seemingly fundamental theories are otherwise contradictory in some ways. Loop quantum gravity, which was pioneered at Ashtekar’s institute, proposes that spacetime has a discrete “atomic” structure, as opposed to being a continuous sheet, as Einstein, along with most us, assumed.

In loop quantum gravity, space is thought of as woven from one-dimensional “threads.” The continuum picture remains mostly valid as an approximation. But near the Big Bang, this fabric is violently torn so that it’s discrete, or quantum, nature becomes important. One outcome of this Ashetkar argued; is that gravity becomes repulsive instead of attractive, the result is the Big Bounce.

Paul Steinhardt of Princeton University, a cosmologist who has explored some related concepts, wrote in an email that the new research “Supports, in a general way, the idea that the Big Bang need not be the beginning of space and time.” The universe “may have undergone more bangs in its past history,” he added.

Steinhardt and colleagues have also proposed a bounce of sorts, but it’s different. It could turn out that the two scenarios are equivalent at some deep level, but that’s not known, he added. Steinhardt‘s scenario makes use of string theory, another attempt to reconcile General Relativity with quantum physics. Some versions of string theory portray our visible universe as a three -dimensional space embedded in an invisible space having more dimensions.

Our zone, called a braneworld [the word comes from its similarity to a sort of membrane] could periodically bounce into another parallel braneworld.

Such an event might look to us, stuck in a few dimensions as we are, as a Big Bang. “I don’t know if Ashetkar’s case translates into a bounce between braneworlds like we are describing,” Steinhardt wrote. But by his estimate, this cataclysm won’t take place for another roughly 300 billion years—so there is hopefully plenty of time to answer the question.

Just as the Big Bang theory has been evolving over the years and is continuing to evolve as new data becomes available, these big Crunch theories that are just beginning to emerge are still in their infancy.

Because three-dimensional time as we know it, does not exist prior to the Big Bang: From the return of the previous universe to the supposedly infinitely hot, infinitely dense and infinitesimally small singularity of origin to the next Big Bang when three dimensional space and time would begin again, it would appear that no time had elapsed, thus [As is believed] the erroneous Big Bounce theory.

where ya going with all that? Im till here on earth talking about the origins of life and youre reciting with the idea to perhaps merely snow the audience??

Im impressed but not convinced youve handle on anything cau youv just been avoiding the subjwcts (7 days for Creation?) youve evn avoided what the hell is meant by that..

Correct! You are still here talking about the origin of life from a universal body of mindless matter of which you have absolutely no evidence whatsoever, while "I" am talking about the origin of all that exists, and the seven cycles of universal activity, the seven days of creation, or the seven generations of the universe, something that you have failed to discuss owing to your lack of intestinal fortitude.

actually the evidence is rather good. Weve got evidence of several on an off attempts at life on earth (at least 3 separate ones from fossil deposits ,It isnt until several BILLION YEARS LAter that the first fosil of a 8-oxo-purine (which could act as a ribonucleotide) first apeared in tructure from rocks in the Canadian Shield. All previous attempsta t colonization re wiped out but it appeared that non of them contained any purines or pyrimidines so no RNA and certainly no DNA. Very first life was mor about nutrients rathr than copying .
Also, the modifications in rNA and DNA can be found anywhere on the polymer chain (this is how horizontal transfer of Genomes can occur).
I think lifes ascendence on this plant followed a kind of helter kelter pattern of modification and heritability.
We can follow animal and plant DNA and see how the environmet rally controls the base changes in the polymers. Yet see that (even for humans) we had evidence of over 10 eparate H species and more coming in each year. These "trial balloons" were briefly successful in their reproductive path and then were gone. This plays the role of how extinction is an equal driving force of evolution ,no design is seen. In fact, if a designer were involved, it was using a mthod that Leadfoot had always stated in the past"The designer, he implied" was so smart that he made it look like he was incompetent (my interpretation of Leads belief)


You, on the other han, gather up almost irrelevant cosmology data to try to create a diversion BALOON over my head so Id be impressed at at baseless erudition.
I wanna stay on subjct and even let Leadfoot back in to clen up some of yer droppings caue its obvious your avoiding verything about life.

AND PS, at first you did say that galaxis were closed ystems, maybe you deleted it. h?

Good heavens mate, it's so hard to make sense of your writing, if you are incapable of editing your first draft, or too lazy to do it yourself, you would be well advised to hire someone to do it for you.

So then, when you can provide the evidence to prove that a universe of mindless matter, has created life, come back and we'll have a chat.

Have a good one mate, I'm off to drop the lead into the weeping willow and plough the deep. That's Aussie slang young fellow.

The eternal, who has neither beginning or end is alive.

Farmerman has suffered a hand injury, it means his typing isn’t as good as it once was.

Most of us don’t mention it because it’s a form of bullying.

Then again I’m not surprised to find you doing it now you’ve lost the argument, play the man because you’re incapable of playing the ball.

And your foul mouthed insults are not some childish attempt to force your superiors into submission I suppose, go and wash you filthy mouth out you poor biblical and scientific ignorant child.

You have admitted to buying dogshit.

No insult can trump that.

I’ve got a thread on foul language, those who don’t use it tend to have a limited vocabulary and little else.

That would be you, I note the penny still hasn’t dropped re Gabriel.

Profanities are, indeed, the tarragon of language. I pity the persons who dont avail themselves to their sound.

study the meanings of apoptosis

The thread in question has a wonderful rant from Brian Blessed.

When he was a kid the old woman down the road said she’d tell his mother he swore.

He then hurled a stream of invective at her telling her to tell his mum he said that.

the anointed one is our pharisee. hes so smugly pleased with hisself.

He’s incredibly ignorant, and dead easy to wind up.

I had a lot of fun with him on the Afterlife thread about Genesis and Gabriel.

He only stopped responding after I posted a comment on the music puns thread.

If I hadn’t he’d still be none the wiser.

I located some of the clips he posted and he then begins to add clips from curiously chritian its. But I gotta give him credit for coining the "ternal nergy" titles. Invoking Dr Thompsons laws with rligious titles is , in fact, brilliant bit of salesmenship.

That was simply referring to Fm's facts as a bag full of dog droppings and that's a fact young fellow.

And now in your childish ignorance, you attempt to change the fact that you honestly believed, in your atheistic ignorance, that Gabriel is mentioned in the book of Genesis, was only a ploy to get me going, but only you and your word blind dyslectic mate Fm would believe that.

BTW, have you noticed how the spelling mistakes increase, the more that Fm gets flustered?

Oh please, don't give me the credit for coining the phase "ETERNA ENERGY", that belongs to some of the greatest minds of our Quantum physicists.

Let me repeat a previous post that apparently word blind people were unable to understand.

In the days of Paul, it was believed by faith alone, that all visible matter in the universe was built by the gathering together of smaller and invisible particles. Today we know this to be a fact, Matter is but the gathering together of invisible molecules, created by the gathering together of invisible atoms, which themselves are created from the gathering of invisible sub-atomic particles that are formed from Photons or wave particles, which are not particles at all, although generally regarded as discrete stable elementary particles, having zero mass, no electric charge, yet carrying angular and linear momentum.

In fact, it has now been revealed that matter is no more than an illusion. Quantum physicists have revealed that so called physical atoms are made up of vortices of energy that are constantly spinning and vibrating, each one radiating its own unique energy signature.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/nothing-solid-everything-energy-scientists-explain-world-djurisic

Below are excerpts from the link provided.

If you observe the composition of an atom with a microscope you would see a small, invisible tornado-like vortex, with a number of infinitely small energy vortices called quarks and photons. These are what make up the structure of the atom. As you focused in closer and closer on the structure of the atom, you would see nothing, you would observe a physical void. The atom has no physical structure, we have no physical structure, physical things really don’t have any physical structure! Atoms are made out of “INVISIBLE ENERGY”, not tangible matter.

Pioneering physicist Sir James Jeans wrote: “The stream of knowledge is heading toward a non-mechanical reality; the universe begins to look more like a "GREAT THOUGHT" than like a great machine. Mind no longer appears to be an accidental intruder into the realm of matter, we ought rather hail it as the creator and governor of the realm of matter. (R. C. Henry, “The Mental Universe”; Nature 436:29, 2005)

The energy that has neither beginning or end has become "THE GREAT THOUGHT" who the quantum physicists believe that we ought rather hail it as the creator and governor of the realm of matter.

If you are incapable of understanding that, then I would advise you to get someone else to explain it to you, but I don't think that your little foul mouthed mate dizzy Izzy would be of any help to you.

What sort of idiot would do something like that?

All you illustrated was that you were an idiot.

That anecdote only works with stupid people.

No normal kid would give money for “facts,” they’ve got school for that.

So if your audience thinks that’s normal behaviour then they must be thick as ****.

You can’t have it both ways.

FM is a smart guy, he knows what he’s talking about, and it’s clear you don’t.

Not regarding science anyway, I’ll give you a pass on scripture despite your shocking ignorance of Genesis.

IGNORED!

But I have so much to teach you.

You don’t start off some allegorical anecdote with you doing something so incredibly stupid, that the only response is to think why the **** would someone do that.

Any epigrammatic piece of wisdom you intended is lost, because the lead character, (you,) is so incredibly stupid it has no bearing on real life.

In that respect you’re just like Terry Fuckwit.

It’s like that episode of Dunny Cop where Jonno gets his head stuck in the woolabongadoolagong, and they have to call Queensland to get a trained specialist plumber from the homicide division.