infinity and god

Amigo wrote:

You did see the Socrates quote I started with right?

Yeah I did. That would be great at a cocktail party, but ultimately I'm unimpressed. If we want to play the quote game, I'll invoke Mark Twain on the topic.

"Man is the only animal that blushes"

Amigo wrote:

Do you understand that that is where you are going and that is my point?

You're not making points. If you want to dismiss a contrary view, choose method, choose philosophy, choose poetry, but it's just lazy to be so dismissive.

Amigo wrote:

The spaghetti monster was invented out of this frustration. Why was god invented?

1) Fear
2) A misunderstanding of nature

Amigo wrote:

Why do we contemplate god and not the spaghetti monster?

If you could hear yourself, you might notice your use of "we." If your statement is true (and I don't think it is, because people do in fact discuss the FSM) then it discomfort that comes with the notion that a god is just as reasonable/logical as the FSM.

You (or anyone else) may think that god is a more reasonable concept than unicorns, ogres, centaurs, or fairies, but you (nor anyone else) can give god an edge on any of those.

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It is the atheist that gives god the edge not me. God is the cause of the atheist discontent, the atheist give god to much credit. The atheist is always tring to find a theist he can beat the god out of himself with.

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Amigo wrote:

It is the atheist that gives god the edge not me. God is the cause of the atheist discontent, the atheist give god to much credit. The atheist is always tring to find a theist he can beat the god out of himself with.

Yeah, and that's why atheists go knocking door to door. Rolling Eyes

If any insecurity is to be had, it is in the theist. And some brands of theist are more insecure than others IMO.

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The atheist always returns. Seeking to fill that "void of understading"... to cure that nagging in him that is not logical with logic. It drove Nietzsche insane.

Make a thousand satirical religions, they all pay respect and are a Testament to the same thing.

The theist created a god in his image and called it a day.

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Amigo wrote:

The theist created a god in his image and called it a day.

You forgot about how scared the theist got when free thought came into play. You forgot how that fear let the theist burn people at the stake because the theist was too insecure in their beliefs to let live another person who thought contrary.

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aperson wrote:

Fight or flight.

Ticomaya is hopeless at the first, and so resorts to the second.

No, little man, I've not run from any fight ... but I've made it clear I don't see the point on arguing this issue, and so I won't. The reason is because I've danced this dance before, and it will get neither of us anywhere.

And if you think I'm twisting your words (and I submit that I've twisted nothing, but you are welcome to clarify if you think I have) so you don't want to answer my questions, fine. I'm certainly not twisting your arm to respond.

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Nietzsche's insanity remains undiagnosed.

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Ticomaya,
I find it sad that you resort to petty insults such as "little man". You are desparate indeed.

Amigo,
Your statements are void. My thoughts on arrogance apply to every belief, but virtually all atheists are "weak atheists" - atheism with a dash of agnosticism. The percentage of "strong" theists is huge compared to that of "strong" atheists.

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aperson wrote:

Ticomaya,
I find it sad that you resort to petty insults such as "little man". You are desparate indeed.

Yeah, well it's that old "reap what you sow" thing again, innit, aperson?

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Actually it's nothing like that. It's more like you illustrating your incapability to keep up.

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Come on guys. You're spoiling an otherwise interesting thread. Get back to ideas and away from snipes.

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JLNobody wrote:

Come on guys. You're spoiling an otherwise interesting thread. Get back to ideas and away from snipes.

I wasn't planning on responding, JLN.

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Ticomaya,
I called you a fundamentalist, once. Since then you have called me a "snot-nosed little kid", "little man" and other pathetic insults. You obviously wouldn't need to do this if you had competent debating skills, or at least a little decency. Shut up and, if I may say so, grow up.

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aperson wrote:

Ticomaya,
I called you a fundamentalist, once. Since then you have called me a "snot-nosed little kid", "little man" and other pathetic insults. You obviously wouldn't need to do this if you had competent debating skills, or at least a little decency. Shut up and, if I may say so, grow up.

Well, I said I wasn't going to respond, JLN, but then the little pismire spoke up.

You are a rude little sob who threw around the insults first, and you continue to throw them around. You called me a "fundy" ... so I called you a "snot-nosed little kid." You called me "hopeless" ... so I called you "little man." I'm unaware of any other "pathetic insults" I've thrown your way. (Well, I just called you a "pismire," but then you just called me incompetent and told me to "shut up.")

So, since my insults are a direct result of insults you've thrown my way, I'd say it is your debating skills that are called into question thereby.

And your immaturity has never been in doubt.

JLN asked you to get away from the sniping .. had you been as mature as you wish you were, you would have resisted the urge to attack me. You will grow up one day, but that day has yet to arrive.

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I may be inclined to agree with you about aperson growing up. However, if he's acting 17, he's actually 15 (if I remmeber correctly). That puts him ahead of the game. I'm sure he's on track to grow up.

What's your excuse?

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Diest TKO wrote:

What's your excuse?

An extraordinary amount of Pink Floyd, Green Day, and Staind on my ipod.

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Let's I was going to live forever and the universe s infinite. I set out on my space ship with the intention of visiting every star and planet in the infinite universe. No matter how long or how far I travel I would never visit all of them. However, I cannot pick a specific planet and say I will not visit that one.

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Ticomaya wrote:

Diest TKO wrote:
What's your excuse?

An extraordinary amount of Pink Floyd, Green Day, and Staind on my ipod.

As much as I dislike you and just about everything you stand for, that was a pretty good responce.

Pink floyd = good;
Green Day = fair;
Staind = epic bad;

LOL.

Touche'
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I'm still the smartest!

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Diest TKO wrote:

As much as I dislike you and just about everything you stand for, that was a pretty good responce.

Pink floyd = good;
Green Day = fair;
Staind = epic bad;

Okay ... mainly Pink Floyd. I was just trying to enhance my street cred. :wink:

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