Who's tired of Pink? Erica Jong is in a big snit

Erica Jong wrote:
Obama? Who knows who he is? A brilliant writer, yes, a cute young guy, yes, a progressive, we think. But who really knows? I give him the benefit of the doubt. Why not? But what a stupid way to choose a President!


soz:
It's pretty obvious that she hasn't bothered to do any research

Gala wrote:

Erica Jong's been around for a long tiime, and now she just recycles herself doing her whiny shtick, which will appeal to a lot of whiny women and some men who are "feminists."

heh...we feel the same way.

I've done both and she'd give any one of us an elbow to the jaw before she'd whine. She's very brave, very tough and very, very smart.

But she's a woman. So "whine" is the word that gets used.

You speaking for all women, or just the ones on A2K?

Snood, I believe that Chai speaks for herself.

There wasn't a sign-up list in the girls' room that said "Chai speaks for me too".

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Perhaps she was using the royal 'we'.

blatham wrote:

I've done both and she'd give any one of us an elbow to the jaw before she'd whine. She's very brave, very tough and very, very smart.

But she's a woman. So "whine" is the word that gets used.

No doubt. Erica Jong is all of the above. But she's still whiny, not because she's a woman, but because she whines.

Men whine too. And plenty.

Am I to consider this post of yours here to be an instance of "whining" about Jong? If not, why not? What characterizes a whining comment and some other species of comment?

Snood, I believe that Chai speaks for herself.

There wasn't a sign-up list in the girls' room that said "Chai speaks for me too".

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Perhaps she was using the royal 'we'.

I read his post early this am....saw it three ways, talking about gala, talking about me, or talking about whiny A2K women.

In any event, didn't seem worth answering at the time, any way you take it, it's a dig.

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Chai wrote:

I read his post early this am....saw it three ways, talking about gala, talking about me, or talking about whiny A2K women.

In any event, didn't seem worth answering at the time, any way you take it, it's a dig.

Pretty much the SnoodMood, eh.

blatham wrote:

Am I to consider this post of yours here to be an instance of "whining" about Jong? If not, why not? What characterizes a whining comment and some other species of comment?

Sir, you can consider my post anyway you please.

What characterizes an Erica Jong comment to my comment? She gets payed to whine.

I suppose I need to reread.

I haven't followed Erica in recent years. I remember thinking her a little late, perhaps using, back with the zipless f episodes..

Oh, by the way, I'm a feminist.

The first piece was a rant. Whiff.

Second, I'll have to review, didn't find it as distasteful.

To Blatham, no, I don't read her columns.



Frankly, I thought the first bit something like some of mine to myself, not posted.

I had a lot to quibble with her on that.

But.. wait, why should I be listening except that you mentioned her?

Gala wrote:

blatham wrote:

Am I to consider this post of yours here to be an instance of "whining" about Jong? If not, why not? What characterizes a whining comment and some other species of comment?

Sir, you can consider my post anyway you please.

What characterizes an Erica Jong comment to my comment? She gets payed to whine.

That's a cop-out response. Were you whining, even if for no money, or were you doing something else? What is that else?

It isn't important how blatham reads your post. The question is whether you have any sort of objective criterion for establishing who is 'whining', which as you understand is a derogation which paints the subject as either child-like or hysterically feminine.

Say what? As I said. Consider it anyway you please.

I don't think it's relevant whether I have an objective criterion-- The issue here is Jong is a public figure. If she dies in a car crash the news will be heard on TV and printed in newspapers.

Her shtick is overwrought.

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Say what? As I said. Consider it anyway you please.

I don't think it's relevant whether I have an objective criterion-- The issue here is Jong is a public figure. If she dies in a car crash the news will be heard on TV and printed in newspapers.

Her shtick is overwrought.

By "overwrought", I'm not sure if you mean something like "too angry" or "exaggerated" or whether you are worried that further such thoughts and commentary from her might result in fainting of miscarriage.