On a side note, 40 years ago the state of Michigan had no aircraft fleet. They relied on local aviators to fly the elected officials around. I'm not sure about this, but there's a possibility my Dad flew Governor Romney (Mitt's father) around the state at least once. Now the government of Michigan is (likely) the state's largest employer. How times change.
I wasn't kidding... Democrats should vote for Romney.
Since Michigan is an "open" primary (meaning anyone can vote in either primary regardless of their own affiliation) crossing over is perfectly legal and legitimate.
The fact that Republicans have done this themselves several times makes it perfectly appropriate. The Republicans have been playing tough, dirty politics for years. It is time for Democrats to learn how to fight to win. This is an example of something that is perfectly legal.
This is a great strategy not only because it forces the Republicans to continue their very public mud fight... it also costs money which could help even in Congressional elections.
If you live in Michigan and you want the Democrats to win next November, keeping Romney in the race is very good idea.
Please consider a vote for my not-so-esteemed ex-governor.
You're way overestimating the intelligence of the average Michigan Democrat.
Do you want the primary season to be over... or do you want it to be HILARIOUS.
Go ahead and click. This video is funny.
One final plug for Romney.
Keeping him in the race is the best thing you can do if you support the Democrats.
If the Democrats really wanted the worst for the GOP, they'd ask Hillary to switch parties.
By the way Cjhsa...
who are you voting for today?
I knew it! You ARE voting for Romney LOL.
At least we can be on the same side for once.
No, not Romney. They won't let me write in Nugent either.
Okie dokie did I tell everyone I've been on a veritable cocktail of vicodin, flexeril, NSAIDS and steroids for two weeks with a bad back.
I think I voted for someone named Hucklebama Clintcain.
Romney Wins Michigan!!!
And the fun can continue.
Just an FYI there dude, only 7% of those that voted yesterday were registered Democrats....
Enough R's and I's voted for Clinton in the D-primary that she beat "uncommitted". So your hopes for Romney kinda backfired on you.
Like I told ya, the D's of Michigan aren't that smart. They never have been, and they seem to prefer it that way.
cjhsa wrote:Okie dokie did I tell everyone I've been on a veritable cocktail of vicodin, flexeril, NSAIDS and steroids for two weeks with a bad back.
I think I voted for someone named Hucklebama Clintcain.
Sorry to hear about your back pain, cjhsa. Hopefully it is from a temporary strain and not chronic.
Michigan's Ominous Message for Hillary Clinton John Nichols
Tue Jan 15, 10:59 PM ET
The Nation -- DETROIT -- The question in Tuesday's Michigan Democratic primary was not whether Hillary Clinton could beat anybody.
The question was whether Clinton could beat nobody.
As the only leading Democratic contender to keep her name on the ballot after Michigan officials moved their primary ahead of the opening date scheduled by the Democratic National Committee, Clinton was perfectly positioned. She had no serious opposition. She also had the strong support of top Michigan Democrats such as Governor Jennifer Granholm and U.S. Senator Debbie Stabenow.
Usually, a prominent presidential contender running a primary campaign without serious opposition and with strong in-state support from party leaders can count on winning 90 percent or more of the vote. That's how it went for George Bush when he was running without serious opposition in Republican primaries in 2004, and for Bill Clinton when he was essentially unopposed in the Democratic primaries in 1996.
But Hillary Clinton got nowhere near 90 percent of the vote in Tuesday's Michigan primary.
With most of the ballots counted, the New York senator was winning uninspiring 55 percent of the Democratic primary vote.
A remarkable 40 percent of Michiganders who participated in the primary voted for nobody, marking the "Uncommitted" option on their ballots. Another 4 percent backed Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich, who brought his anti-war, anti-corporate campaign to Michigan and made some inroads among Muslim voters in the Detroit area and liberals in Washtenaw County -- where he was taking almost 10 percent.
But "Uncommitted" was Clinton's most serious challenger in Michigan.
"Uncommitted" was actually beating Clinton in some counties and holding her below 50 percent in others, including Detroit's Wayne County.
Ominously for the Clinton camp, the former First Lady was losing the African-American vote -- in Wayne County and statewide -- to "Uncommitted." African-American leaders such as Detroit Congressman John Conyers, who backs Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, had urged an "Uncommitted" vote. And the message seemed to connect. Exits polls showed "Uncommitted" winning by a 70-26 margin among African-Americans. (Had Michigan voters been allowed to choose between all the serious contenders for the Democratic nod, CNN's exit poll found, Obama would have won the African-American vote by a 73-22 margin over Clinton.)
"Uncommitted" also beat Clinton among independent voters who participated in the Democratic primary, and among young voters.
The message from Michigan, suggests veteran Detroit Free Press columnist Stephen Henderson, is that if Clinton is the Democratic nominee she'll "have a real challenge building an electoral coalition that can win in November."
"(A) Democrat won't win without carrying a significant slice of the African-American vote or reaching out to independents," explained Henderson.
It is hard to argue with that assessment.
It is harder still to believe that Clinton will get very far claiming Michigan handed her a meaningful victory Tuesday night. When two out of every five voters choose nobody rather than a prominent candidate who is running with little or no opposition, that candidate's got no reason to celebrate.
It was my understanding that the "uncommitted" votes might be able to cast delegate votes at the DNC. Those committed to Hillary or any other candidate would not be counted due to the sanctions.
Michigan Dems continue to find ways to shoot themselves and their state in the foot. Perhaps our continued economic decline will cause that to change as the newly jobless leave the state.
The "message" from Michigan is meaningless.
Democrats have said they will only seat uncommitted delegates from Michigan. Whether Hillary got 5% or 100% doesn't really matter.
Obama and Edwards weren't on the ballot and told their supporters to vote uncommitted. Both are still in the race and their supporters would know that. If we assume all their supporters voted uncommitted, Hillary's 55% is a good showing and would be trumpeted as a huge win if the others had been on the ballot. She "won big" in NH with less than 40% of the vote.
This is nothing but pundits trying to make news in declaring it a loss for Hillary. Just as it was making news to declare NH a "big win" for Hillary.
cjhsa wrote:Just an FYI there dude, only 7% of those that voted yesterday were registered Democrats....
Enough R's and I's voted for Clinton in the D-primary that she beat "uncommitted". So your hopes for Romney kinda backfired on you.
Like I told ya, the D's of Michigan aren't that smart. They never have been, and they seem to prefer it that way.
My hopes didn't backfire at all.
Romney won Michigan (why he won doesn't really matter)... and he will stay in the race. This means more money spent and more nasty attacks by Republicans, on Republicans for Republicans.
The Republican nomination fight is awfully fun to watch! (It would have been considerably less fun without Romney).
Personally I find it more interesting to watch Clinton and Obama calling each other racists, and Kucinich paying for recounts.
Politics is ugly and there is no uglier than Hillary, literally and figuratively.
