Endymion wrote:
i think kids should be protected from adult fantasy and 'make believe' as much as possible.
Thay have as much right to be informed as u do.
Quote: The Death Wish films are the real insult to intelligence.
How ?
What insult ?
Quote:Certificate 18 - and for good reason.
For protection.
What the hell does THAT mean ?
If someone steals your car ( or any other property )
and says that it s for your protection,
does that make OK ?
I don 't think so.
Quote:Apart from the graphic rape scene in death wish II
(which i would consider child abuse to show a kid) -
revenge is a mug's game.
What does
THAT mean ?
What is a mug ?
Everyone must decide for himself whether to execute revenge
and chance the consequences.
Quote: A perversely negative Ouroboros,
destroying itself by becoming the very thing it set out initially to defeat.
Bronson never became what he set out to defeat.
He defeated what he sought out
( for a limited time, until the police ran him out of town; then he took up the same elsewhere ).
Quote:Maybe some parents want more for their kids than miss-placed hero worship
The kids and everyone else,
of every age, are all free to believe whatever thay opt to believe,
and to worship whatever or whoever thay choose.
Everyone of any age is sovereign n autonomous between the ears.
Quote:combined with self righteousness that deceives the weak
into thinking they can get away with murder/playing god.
WhatayaMEAN " deceives " ??
Have u proof that it cant happen ?
It was
not murder.
He was ready to defend himself
( and in so doing,
the REST of us, too ).
He was much more valuable to public safety than the police were.
If that happened in real life, I 'd CHEER.
He put the police to shame, by comparison.
He was a better deterent to violent criminals than thay were.
The criminals who Bronson had interred, were deterred
PERMANENTLY.
Quote:That they have the right to inflict their suffering onto others.
Yes; the right of revenge; of getting even.
There 's nothing rong with that.
Quote:Anyway, the central character is a fake
It was
not presented as having been a true story.
Many movies are not.
Quote:If he'd really had a death wish
he would have stuck the gun in his own mouth and blown his own brains out.
Any chance that the wish for death
was against the bad guys
( like the ones who attacked his wife n child )
and that he carried out his wish ?
Quote:The man was having a paddy.
What the hell 's a paddy ?
Quote:He was out of control.
Under whose
CONTROL do u want him to BE ?
Quote: A police marksman would have brought him down for sure, in reality.
Nonsense.
He had no snipers aiming at him,
nor did he do anything rong.
He defended himself from violent depredations,
after enticing them, killing many violent criminals
and serving a very valuable purpose for the rest of us.
If the story were TRUE, then
I 'd be very grateful to him.
He 'd have been much more valuable than most politicians.
Quote:He went on a killing spree to distract himself from the painful reality.
Yes; he DID have fun with it,
but in the execution thereof,
he made society much safer
for the rest of us. If it had been true,
how many violent felonies wud have been prevented
by the criminals being too dead to commit them ????????????
Quote:He became what he despised rather than face his own grief.
Nonsense.
He did NOT become what he despised,
because he did not kill innocent, decent people.
Each of those criminals was a
DANGER;
he extinguished those dangers.
U thought he was too young ?
Well, maybe, but he made up for youth by his
bravery.
Quote:If he'd really loved the victims whose deaths are flaunted as an excuse,
U accuse him of hypocrisy ?
I do not remember him alleging that he loved anyone.
He merely acted upon his beliefs
( more than most folks do ).
Quote:he would have honored them
by protecting others from similar violent death - not by dishing out more of it.
That is a really
STUPID thing to say
( which is the reason that Edgar agrees with u )
that if Bronson loved,
then he wud AGREE with your cowardice.
Incidentally, " protecting others from similar violent death "
is absolutely impossible.
Quote:I think it takes a brave man to feel the pain of injustice and deal with it inside
Endy
( Lemme get this straight: u think that if a man is
NOT brave,
then it is IMPOSSIBLE for him to feel the pain of injustice ??
Therefore, cowards are immune to the pain of injustice ?
If the pain of injustice is inflicted upon a coward
[e.g., if someone
unjustly slices off one of a coward 's ears] he will be
unable to feel it ? )
Our hero, Bronson dealt with it
inside and outside.
Your post is very poorly reasoned, Endy.
David
